The Brexit Discussion And Analysis Thread.

If they don't agree a pact whereby the Brexit Party won't contest Tory marginal seats, that will split the vote and could lead to Tory defeats. I don't think Boris has any choice in this, unless he plans to do a 'Theresa May' and sabotage his chances.

The Brexit Party might make some gains in the North, but voters are always conservative (note small c!) in general elections and vote for the main parties. They tend to vote for marginal parties where they think it doesn't matter so much, as in the local and EU elections.

Lord Buckethead the inter-galactic space lord

He was one of the best comedy candidates last time, when he ran against Theresa May on behalf of the Gremloids Party.

Will he run in the Brexmas election? I hope so!

He has more credibility than most currently in Parliament.

I see all this as a part of a bigger picture. Let's face it - hunters are still killing foxes on the sly and claiming it was accidental; the courts are often full of well-off magistrates so they are rarely prosecuted. It was a non-issue.

I think that the big game plan is chaos in Parliament.

We're having a multi-pronged attack on the institutions of Britain (whether you think that's a good idea or not) - the independence of our Parliament and the royal family, and my gut feeling is that those two strands are part of the same plan. I was also across the Channel in 2015, I saw and heard first-hand what was happening with the migrant crisis. I don't believe that it happened randomly and chaotically - it was orchestrated and planned. The people behind the scenes were making millions (possibly billions) through what was essentially people trafficking, and it didn't stop when they reached the shores of Italy and Greece. One bizarre thing to a Brit that I noted when in Italy was seeing prostitutes in pairs in lay-bys on some busy roads in broad daylight; pre-2015 they were mainly European, after then they were mainly African. Whether you think that uncontrolled immigration is a good thing or not, it has certainly changed the face of Europe, polarised the European population and imposed a huge strain on governments' social welfare budgets.

Another thing to bear in mind that it is a little-known fact that one of the founding fathers of the EU was an Italian communist, Altiero Spinelli. The EU building in Brussels is named after him but hardly anyone knows who he is. Christopher Booker wrote about him:

"The author said in a column for the Daily Telegraph: “We were coyly told that the little island of Ventotene off Naples was where, in 1941, a prisoner of Mussolini’s had written the visionary manifesto that looked forward to building, after the war, a ‘United States of Europe’.”

Mr Booker noted, that what somehow got omitted was that Altiero Spinelli was a communist.

He explained: “We were not told that Spinelli’s Ventotene Manifesto proposed that his future government of Europe should be quietly assembled by its supporters over many years; and that only when all its pieces were in place would those supporters summon a convention to draw up a ‘Constitution for Europe’, which would finally reveal to the European people just what they had been up to.

"What we were also not told – and this is seemingly one of the best-kept secrets of the whole story – is that many years later, when Spinelli was elected as a Communist MEP in 1979, he became the second most influential person, after Jean Monnet, in shaping 'Europe' as we know it today."

Mr Booker emphasised that at the time when the integration process had stalled, it was he who persuaded the European Parliament to vote for a "Draft Treaty on the European Union", and it was this, taken up by Jacques Delors, which led directly to the next two major treaties, the Single European Act and Maastricht, transforming the European Community into the European Union, complete with its own currency, foreign policy and much else besides."
www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1185863/eu-news-brexit-latest-boris-johnson-no-deal-italy-altiero-spinelli-spt

In other words, they had a grand plan for a Government of Europe and kept it quiet from the people, dressing it up as a trading bloc and hiding their true intentions.

Farage's pact with the Tories

Farage has announced today that the Brexit Party will not stand against incumbent Conservatives, and will target Labour seats in areas where the majority voted to leave.

It looks as if this is a one-sided pact and that Boris has not initiated it; the DM reported it with the headline 'Farage blinks first'.

Battle of two Davids

David Cameron and David Icke got into an “Oh no there isn’t” “Oh yes there is” war of words a few years ago when Cameron dismissed the idea that there was a conspiracy to keep the UK in the EU.

From March 2016:

“Speaking in France this afternoon, the Prime Minister compared some of the arguments used by those backing Brexit with conspiracy theories peddled by former professional footballer turned conspiracy theorist David Icke…

Mr Cameron said: ‘Of course you can say this is all some giant conspiracy, some sort of David Icke's style sort of you know ... It is just nonsense’.

President Hollande backed up his British counterpart by warning that ‘there will be consequences if the UK breaks ties with Brussels.

He said: ‘I don't want to scare you, I just want to tell the truth. There will be consequences if Britain leaves the EU’."

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12181749/EU-referendum-France-issues-Calais-migrant-warning-over-British-EU-referendum-live.html

No conspiracy? Here is David Icke’s response from his Twitter:

David Cameron: referendum and resignation

The theory that Cameron agreed to hold the referendum only to keep some constituents quiet and because he was certain of a large Remain majority seems very plausible.

He was devastated when it all backfired:

“David Cameron held back tears as he stood in front of the cameras on Friday outside Downing Street and, voice cracking with emotion, announced he would be stepping down after six years as Prime Minister.

But they started flowing when that famous black door closed behind him and he spoke to his tight-knit circle of close aides and loyal civil servants.

‘It was very emotional,’ said one of those there. ‘Everyone was crying – men and women, even the civil servants. And then David started crying.’”

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3660243/IAN-BIRRELL-Inside-No-10-tears-David-started-crying.html#ixzz4CfFMN6sB

Perhaps Cameron cried because he had failed and knew that he would be punished for it!

He is not an honourable man. He is an honourable alien.

The company that Nigel Farage keeps

The Swedish billionaire businessman Johan Eliasch’s ex-wife Amanda appeared recently in the Epstein connections thread. Now there is a connection that is relevant to this thread.

Nigel Farage attended a lavish fundraising dinner with ‘right-wing conspiracy theorists’ in June this year.

“Farage was at a table with millionaire hotelier John Mappin — who has shared anti-vaccine conspiracy theories and false information about J*e*w*ish financier George Soros — and artist Amanda Eliasch — who said Enoch Powell had been ‘sadly proven right’ in his ‘Rivers of Blood’ speech by the 2017 Manchester Arena bombing and has made anti-Islam comments.’”

www.politico.eu/article/nigel-farage-attended-dinner-with-right-wing-conspiracists/

Amanda Eliasch “... has shared theories posted by conspiracist David Icke, including one in which he claimed there is a ‘political system orchestrated, created and controlled to this day by the Roths**childs called Zion **ism...’”

John Mappin is a Scientologist. He is said to be obsessed with King Arthur, to support QAnon and be a great fan of Donald Trump. He appears in Jeffrey Epstein’s Little Black Book.

Could this be why Arron Banks has distanced himself from Farage and the Brexit Party?

Just putting this video here, as the fact that the EU is still waiting for a nomination for the next EU Commissioner from the UK is very interesting indeed:

Ten days to go

The pollsters are divided.

Will there be a landslide victory for Boris as some sources predict?

Other sources say that his lead is steadily diminishing and we may end up with a hung parliament.

Maybe Jeremy Corbyn could come back from the dead and surprise us all.

Perhaps it depends on new developments in the coming days.

BoJo’s big day

Will he pull a rabbit out of the hat or will his house of cards collapse?

Will Nigel Farage win any seats for the Brexit Party?

I wonder what we will wake up to tomorrow. Maybe nothing will be certain until all the results are in.

I was not expecting such a large majority.

This is the start not the end.