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Post by UnseenI on Oct 3, 2019 7:33:48 GMT
Gina Miller’s True and Fair Foundation no longer exists
The recent pictures of Archbishop Tutu with the Sussexes have reminded me of a few posts on the old CC forum.
While many of the old names have dropped out and gone quiet, Gina Miller is still very much involved with the campaign to stop Brexit.
She closed her foundation in July this year. The website no longer exists. The official story is that it achieved its objectives.
From one of my old posts:
“The True and Fair Foundation was registered in 2009; it was formerly known as Miller Philanthropy and SCM Philanthropy.
There are only two trustees – ideally there should be a minimum of three – Gina Miller and her husband. They have a modest income of around £144k, and this goes to various UK social welfare charities. They gave £5,000 to The Place2Be.
The website features the colour purple; it has a piggy bank, what looks like a monarch butterfly and quotes from Bob Hope and Bishop Desmond Tutu. It has a Donate section.”
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 4, 2019 7:33:40 GMT
From magpiejack: “I think that Brexit is part of a much bigger picture. I mentioned elsewhere that I suspect that there is a massive power struggle going on, there are a lot of issues going on that I suspect are connected; Brexit, Epstein, Trump, Meghan, and a shake-down of some organised crime activities.” This has given me some ideas. There are common underlying points and issues in these cases.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 5, 2019 17:31:22 GMT
Legal challenge to the legal challenge? Boris will/will not ask for an extension? Will Parliament be prorogued again next week?
It is all wide open still.
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Post by magpiejack on Oct 5, 2019 17:56:47 GMT
Legal challenge to the legal challenge? Boris will/will not ask for an extension? Will Parliament be prorogued again next week? It is all wide open still. There's that emotional rollercoaster again UnseenI , messing with everyone's heads. I think those who are really in charge know exactly which way it's going to turn out and are laughing at the people of this country.
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Post by magpiejack on Oct 11, 2019 18:04:37 GMT
More rollercoaster rides
After a lot of reports of Remainers on the verge of hijacking Brexit, there are now reports that a deal is possible. The Irish PM has gone from bull-charge belligerence to apparent cooperation with Boris.
You couldn't make it up!
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 11, 2019 18:49:22 GMT
I try very hard not to give ‘them’ any food or fuel in the form of negative emotion.
Raising people’s hopes only to have them crash down is indeed giving a roller coaster ride.
There is another big People’s Vote march on Saturday 19th. This is the day of the special emergency sitting. Some big decisions may be made then.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 14, 2019 7:06:59 GMT
State opening of Parliament
The Queen's speech will be made this morning. The weather in London is awful so watching the carriage procession on TV is the best option.
There may be something significant about Brexit in the speech.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 17, 2019 7:23:39 GMT
Is a major decision finally in sight?
See-saws and knife-edges have been mentioned in addition to roller coasters. The slow turning of the screw comes to mind too.
Yesterday’s efforts came to nothing. The next few days will be crucial.
Boris has said the he will not request an extension, but he may well do so.
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Post by magpiejack on Oct 17, 2019 13:22:46 GMT
Is a major decision finally in sight?
See-saws and knife-edges have been mentioned in addition to roller coasters. The slow turning of the screw comes to mind too. Yesterday’s efforts came to nothing. The next few days will be crucial. Boris has said the he will not request an extension, but he may well do so. It looks like the backstop yet again is the stumbling block; NI politicians are saying that the terms are not acceptable to them. The thing about requesting an extension is whether or not it will be granted as it has to be approved by all member states; there's a rumour that Hungary's Viktor Orban will veto an extension to force a hard Brexit.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 17, 2019 17:29:04 GMT
I forget ‘cliff-hanger’!
So far as I can tell, it now depends on what happens in the House on Saturday.
I have been looking at all the ‘what ifs’ and getting very confused.
I suspect that there will be compromises and no one will feel satisfied.
Alternatively, there will be deadlocks and stalemates.
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Post by magpiejack on Oct 17, 2019 20:17:39 GMT
A deal at last!
Good grief - the EU has agreed a deal, but insists on no further extension. It still needs to be approved by Parliament but the DUP MPs aren't happy with it.
The Mail has stated that the deal backs Remainers into a corner, as the threat of no deal seems to be off the agenda.
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Post by magpiejack on Oct 18, 2019 11:21:31 GMT
What if...
... the Remainers vote down the deal? Will that force an election?
I think that a lot of Remainer MPs would lose their seats.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 18, 2019 16:11:04 GMT
The People’s Vote March tomorrow
It is still on. People are coming from all over the UK. They will march from Park Lane to Parliament, starting at mid-day.
They have raised almost 98% of their £550k goal for expenses.
“March Together for the Final Say For our Country. For our Future
We cannot let this broken Brexit be forced on the British people.
It's now clear that this is a crisis that cannot be settled by our Prime Minister or his Government. It can only be settled by us, the people.
That’s why we’re marching together in London on Saturday, October 19th for the Final Say on Brexit.”
I may go to take a look.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 20, 2019 6:12:36 GMT
People’s Vote March
I saw something of the march yesterday. The turnout was very high. It was very colourful indeed. I doubt whether it will have any effect though. I saw this effigy of ‘demonic Dominic’ and BoJo: Eco warrior ‘Mr Broccoli‘ was there, but I didn’t see him:
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 22, 2019 16:37:32 GMT
A deal at last!Good grief - the EU has agreed a deal, but insists on no further extension. It still needs to be approved by Parliament but the DUP MPs aren't happy with it. The Mail has stated that the deal backs Remainers into a corner, as the threat of no deal seems to be off the agenda I don't think that anything is permanently off the agenda yet - options and possibilities come back like Dracula rising from the grave! A delay and a General Election are still possible.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 25, 2019 8:14:15 GMT
What a mess!
With the roller-coaster, if the Remainers go up the Leavers come down and vice-versa. Now it seems that the see-saw is level and both sides are neither up nor down. Neither side is happy; neither side can see victory in sight.
Everything is still not settled, and politicians are still playing games.
We are always being kept waiting for the next day when a big vote will be made - then it goes up in the air again and we have to wait for yet another ‘day of decision’.
Now it is Monday 28th.
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Post by magpiejack on Oct 25, 2019 10:08:30 GMT
What a mess!
With the roller-coaster, if the Remainers go up the Leavers come down and vice-versa. Now it seems that the see-saw is level and both sides are neither up nor down. Neither side is happy; neither side can see victory in sight. Everything is still not settled, and politicians are still playing games. We are always being kept waiting for the next day when a big vote will be made - then it goes up in the air again and we have to wait for yet another ‘day of decision’. Now it is Monday 28th. It certainly is a mess. I wonder if he's making the threat of calling an election in December to force Labour into backing the deal. If there's an election, Labour is going to be hammered in the Midlands and the North and they know that. That is, if Boris doesn't produce such a disastrous campaign like Theresa May did - such as bringing back fox hunting in her manifesto, for heaven's sake! How could that ever have been a vote-winner? When I look back at how ham-fisted that campaign was, I think it was deliberately done to lose the Tory majority in order to usher in the mayhem that has become Brexit (I don't believe that has come about randomly and chaotically, I suspect it was planned). I can't believe she could have been that stupid; she's been in Parliament for about 30 years. Though, maybe she is stupid, who knows? She didn't receive much praise in her role as Home Secretary.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 26, 2019 8:43:11 GMT
Nigel Farage is saying that Boris's deal is much the same as Theresa May's and that it would mean the worst of both worlds for us.
The fox-hunting issue could have been an attempt to win back some rural Conservatives. I remember the Countryside Alliance demonstration - as mentioned in the London thread - and how it showed that there are huge numbers of supporters of traditional field sports.
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Post by magpiejack on Oct 26, 2019 12:49:24 GMT
Nigel Farage is saying that Boris's deal is much the same as Theresa May's and that it would mean the worst of both worlds for us. The fox-hunting issue could have been an attempt to win back some rural Conservatives. I remember the Countryside Alliance demonstration - as mentioned in the London thread - and how it showed that there are huge numbers of supporters of traditional field sports. Having lived in rural areas for most of my adult life (Cameron was my MP for a while), I would say that the majority of rural inhabitants are staunch Tories. I don't think that they would need winning over as most would rather jump off a cliff than vote Labour or Lib Dem. Maybe it was to appeal to urban voters though, as many do have strong feelings about it? That said, they would be more likely swayed by the promise of issues such as more being done to tackle crime, a better NHS and tax cuts for those on low wages than anything to do with fox hunting. It was Labour who banned fox hunting, wasn't it? I think that the Countryside Alliance was quite an anti-Labour protest as they felt that Labour was disengaged and didn't care about rural issues.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 28, 2019 7:52:49 GMT
This evening's vote for a December election
I am not sure that Boris will get the majority he needs.
We shall see.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 29, 2019 8:03:52 GMT
And still we wait
The first post in this thread seems even more interesting in the light of recent developments.
As it says in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, "...just when you think life can't possibly get any worse it suddenly does."
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Post by magpiejack on Oct 29, 2019 17:10:36 GMT
Votes for 16 and 17 year olds
There is a proposed bill in Parliament to extend the franchise to 16 and 17 year olds.
I feel like writing to my MP - only a few months ago I saw a report that young people don't feel as if they're adults until they're 26. We should raise the franchise age, not lower it.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 29, 2019 20:08:07 GMT
So now we know
The 12th of the 12th it is - unless they call it off.
The attempt to get the vote for children is pathetic and transparent.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 30, 2019 8:22:42 GMT
I still think that 'they' want us to Remain and will do anything and everything they can to ensure that we do. They may hedge their bets, have a Plan B and benefit from investments when there is a development in favour of Brexit, but they are still going to sabotage the Leave side by any means necessary. Boris assured us that we would be out by November 1st. Now it is February 1st. I think that he really is a Remainer. Where is Avacyn's Ewok Effect when we need it!
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Post by magpiejack on Oct 30, 2019 10:01:56 GMT
I still think that 'they' want us to Remain and will do anything and everything they can to ensure that we do. They may hedge their bets, have a Plan B and benefit from investments when there is a development in favour of Brexit, but they are still going to sabotage the Leave side by any means necessary. Boris assured us that we would be out by November 1st. Now it is February 1st. I think that he really is a Remainer. Where is Avacyn 's Ewok Effect when we need it! I agree with you. Once the EU brings in an EU-wide economy (governing taxation and pensions), the EU army and the doomed-from-the-start euro project collapses, I will have my "I told you so" moment. Another thing worth mentioning is that Boris' father, sister and brother are all vocal Remainers. Hmm.
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Post by magpiejack on Oct 30, 2019 11:28:30 GMT
GCHQ
One thing that I read a few days ago is that the EU wants to take over command of GCHQ. That will be interesting in respect of the Five Eyes intel arrangement that I have mentioned before, whereby the UK, US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand share info.
Would the other four countries be happy for their intel to be shared with the EU?
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 30, 2019 17:55:22 GMT
This is getting worse and worse.
I suppose that Nigel Farage and BoJo will keep us in suspense about a possible deal re an alliance.
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Post by magpiejack on Oct 30, 2019 18:13:19 GMT
This is getting worse and worse. I suppose that Nigel Farage and BoJo will keep us in suspense about a possible deal re an alliance. I would imagine that Labour will make a pact with the Lib Dems, SNP and Plaid Cymru not to contest their seats and vice versa. There was talk about the Brexit Party and the Tories doing the same. On the point of EU-wide taxation - I would think that we would lose our personal tax allowance which is the most generous in Europe. Most countries don't have one, of the ones that do Germany's is the most generous and that is the equivalent of about £5000. On the bright side, Britain's state pension might be raised as it is one of the lowest (maybe the lowest, I can't remember) in Europe and they may lower the age to 65. Those last two points would be ironic if they do come to pass seeing as young people are statistically more likely to be Remainers.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 31, 2019 7:21:44 GMT
From Avacyn: "...this is now a more epic saga than Game of Thrones. " I have never seen this series but have some idea of what it is about. Things certainly seems to be going that way. I wonder whether taxation will be made into a big issue for the election.
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Post by magpiejack on Oct 31, 2019 8:29:03 GMT
From Avacyn : "...this is now a more epic saga than Game of Thrones. " I have never seen this series but have some idea of what it is about. Things certainly seems to be going that way. I wonder whether taxation will be made into a big issue for the election. The EU has made no secret of its plans to take control of taxation and pensions of all member states (possibly other state benefits as well?) though I haven't seen any precise details. I would imagine an evening-out of the income and expenditure to reflect each nation's economy, so if we have the best personal allowance and the worst pension that would undoubtedly change. I doubt if those EU plans will become an election issue, young Remainers won't want to believe it. Labour will undoubtedly bring out plans to tax the rich.
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