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Post by Avacyn on Mar 9, 2018 23:18:27 GMT
UnseenI, there are four pyramids in this picture! Excellent work there. It really lends support to something I've recently heard about.
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 10, 2018 9:38:38 GMT
I can see five!
I am glad that you liked that picture. I am a bit in the dark, but try to find interesting and colourful material.
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 10, 2018 19:25:04 GMT
Another 17th century depiction of Giza
“It really lends support to something I've recently heard about.” Avacyn the oldest pictures are fascinating, but they are not always a reliable source of information. Before photography came along, people could get away with creating inaccurate and imaginative images. If you look closely, you can see two sphinxes in this drawing: Image of Sphinx of Giza by Olfert Dapper, Description de l'Afrique (1665),
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 10, 2018 19:26:24 GMT
The Great Sphinx and the sand
One of the earliest photographs of the sphinx was taken in 1849. An excavation had opened up some of the area in front: By 1860, the sand had filled in the excavated area:
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 11, 2018 8:05:32 GMT
Giant Sphinx near the Mandalay Bay Hotel
The Mandalay Bay Hotel was the scene of some fatal shootings last October. There is an Egyptian-themed, pyramid-shaped hotel & casino nearby: the Luxor Las Vegas. The two hotels are connected by an enclosed walkway. There is a huge sphinx outside the Luxor. It is probably of little significance and just part of the decor, but as it is very striking I thought it worth mentioning. The Mandalay Bay and Luxor hotels and the sphinx:
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 11, 2018 18:37:25 GMT
The sphinxes along the Victoria Embankment again
“Really curious. I'm left wondering if there is something like a ley-line going through that area. It seems too purposeful to just have all of that, and in that area, too.” Avacyn I am not sure why that area was chosen for the obelisk and its accompanying sphinxes. I do know that the area was part of the Thames until 1864 when it was reclaimed. The main road immediately to the north is The Strand. The name means shore: the Thames once reached much further north and The Strand was the old riverfront. I don’t think that ley lines run under water! I went there today and walked all along the Embankment from Hungerford Bridge to Waterloo Bridge, stopping to rest on a sphinx bench or two along the way. They are on pedestals, so you get a good view of the river. They could do with a new coat of paint! I also took a close look at the shrapnel damage sustained in 1917. You can see Hungerford Bridge and the London Eye in the background in the picture of the damaged sphinx, and Waterloo Bridge in the other picture:
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 12, 2018 7:04:50 GMT
Houdini and The Sphinx magazine
Criss Angel is not the only American magician to have a sphinx connection. The Sphinx was the official trade magazine for magicians. It was published between 1902 and 1953. Renowned escapologist Harry Houdini appeared on the front page several times. Here are a few examples:
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 15, 2018 8:11:29 GMT
Harry Houdini, H. P. Lovecraft and the Great Sphinx
A fictional story ghost-written by H. P Lovecraft that features the Great Sphinx was published as an actual experience of Harry Houdini’s. Imprisoned with the Pharaohs (called Under the Pyramids in draft form, also published as Entombed with the Pharaohs) is a short story written by American fantasy author H. P. Lovecraft in February 1924. "Commissioned by Weird Tales founder and owner J. C. Henneberger, the narrative tells a fictionalized account in the first-person perspective of an allegedly true experience of escape artist Harry Houdini. Set in 1910, in Egypt, Houdini finds himself kidnapped by a tour guide, who resembles an ancient pharaoh, and thrown down a deep hole near the Great Sphinx of Giza. While attempting to find his way out, he stumbles upon a gigantic ceremonial cavern and encounters the real-life deity that inspired the building of the Sphinx.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imprisoned_with_the_PharaohsThe May/June 1924 issue of Weird Tales:
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 15, 2018 8:15:11 GMT
A legacy of Imprisoned with the Pharaohs
This print with two sphinxes at the top and Harry Houdini in the middle was created by Michael Bukowski in 2014 It was inspired by the H.P. Lovecraft, Harry Houdini collaboration Imprisoned with the Pharaohs ( Under the Pyramids.)
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Post by truthseeker on Mar 15, 2018 10:19:56 GMT
Very fascinating.
For a while ancient Egypt has seamed to me like a hive of black magic (if there even is such thing as black and white magic but that is another topic).
I have also have been assuming (be it because of gut feeling, something I have read years ago or both) that egypt used to be a very fertile and beautiful land in the past, especially around the nile. And now it is mainly a dessert. A few weaks ago I have come across a passage in the old testament of the bible which claimed that god turned egypt (and some other country) into a dessert as a punishment for the sins of their population. A few years ago I read in another book that a goddess made the near east dessert like because she got upset by the Islam. It can't be both because the events described in the old testament all happened long before the founder of Islam was born.
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 15, 2018 17:57:10 GMT
Joan Grant and Ancient Egypt
Your post has reminded me of Joan Grant, who wrote several books about life in Ancient Egypt. She said at first that they were historical novels; later she claimed that they were memories of some of her previous lives. And yes, there was a lot of black magic in Ancient Egypt and in previous incarnations she was involved with stopping it. I like books in which the forces of light fight the forces of darkness. I can’t remember whether or not she ever mentioned the Great Sphinx.
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Post by truthseeker on Mar 15, 2018 18:56:54 GMT
Your post has reminded me of Joan Grant, who wrote several books about life in Ancient Egypt. She said at first that they were historical novels; later she claimed that they were memories of some of her previous lives. There was a time when I also believed that I have memories from past lives. But I realised after a few years that paying to much attention to this wasn't doing me any good and now I don't know anymore if reincarnation actually exists ans what the source of these "memories" were. I used to believe that I had drown in my last life or the life before my last life and that this was the reason why I was so scared of diving as a child. But I know from my parents word that in my early childhood there were at least two incidents when I could have drown. One time when I was in an hotel and walking by the pool and the whole pool area was very beautifully designed (with plants and such...) and I suddenly felt remembered of ancient egypt or some similar place. It was like I remembered being a woman in ancient egypt. And another time I suddenly had this vision of being in a medival village and everyone but me was dead and it was very quiet and then I took a horse out of a stable and just rode away. I have no Idea were the second "memory" came from because it wasn't triggered by anthing. These are just two examples. I could give so much more.
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 16, 2018 7:45:07 GMT
Reincarnation is a whole other topic; maybe we need a thread on it. People who believe in it say that people need to forget their past lives so they can start with a clean record. Sometimes an accident such as a fall can make people remember things that happened in previous incarnations.
There is a post in the Mars Mysteries thread about a Russian man who says he is a reincarnated Martian. He said life on Earth will change when the Great Sphinx in Giza is ‘unlocked’.
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 16, 2018 20:39:00 GMT
Omm Sety and the Great Sphinx truthseeker you have reminded me of the strange case of Omm Sety. She was an Englishwoman who believed that she was the reincarnation of a priestess in Ancient Egypt. She was born Dorothy Eady in 1904. The past life memories started after she recovered from a terrible fall down the stairs at the age of three. She was at first thought to have died. She studied Egyptology, married an Egyptian and moved to Egypt. She would sometimes spend the night in the Great Pyramid of Giza, and was known to venture out at night to perform strange rituals, say prayers, and make offerings to Horus in the form of the Great Sphinx, which she said was much older than the experts believed.
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 24, 2018 7:12:58 GMT
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 25, 2018 19:01:27 GMT
General Ulysses S. Grant and the Sphinx
Benjamin Disraeli was not the only politician to be associated with sphinxes. The US Army general Ulysses S. Grant, who was prominent in the Civil War, earned a reputation as ‘the American Sphinx’ because he often kept his thoughts to himself: “Since settlers arrived in the early 19th century, Southern Illinois has been referred to as “Little Egypt,” a reference to the supposed similarity between the Nile Delta and the fertile soil found at the confluence of the Mississippi, Ohio and Tennessee rivers. Fittingly, this delta region was also home to that great Sphinx of the Civil War, Ulysses S. Grant... …War had come, steaming south, with Grant at the helm. The Sphinx, by myth either a benevolent defender or monstrous devourer, had asked his first riddle.“ opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/05/grant-goes-to-war/
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 25, 2018 19:03:10 GMT
Conan Doyles and Brazilian royals visit the Great Sphinx
Members of the Brazilian royal family visited the Sphinx in 1871: Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was accompanied by members of his family on his speaking tour of West Africa. I wonder why he didn’t visit the Sphinx with them. Jean, Denis, Adrian and Billie Conan Doyle in Egypt in March 1929:
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Post by Avacyn on Mar 25, 2018 20:17:24 GMT
Another 17th century depiction of Giza
“It really lends support to something I've recently heard about.” Avacyn the oldest pictures are fascinating, but they are not always a reliable source of information. Before photography came along, people could get away with creating inaccurate and imaginative images. If you look closely, you can see two sphinxes in this drawing: Image of Sphinx of Giza by Olfert Dapper, Description de l'Afrique (1665), What is interesting is that those pyramids look more like they are the Nubian pyramids you find in Sudan. They are more like isosceles triangles, like in the picture you posted. I understand what you are saying, but this is what I was talking about. It was a detailed survey that was done in the 1730s, and the aerial diagrams are rather accurate: As for a second sphinx, that is a possibility. They are presented in pairs, and the second could have been lost in the sands of time. The same person who produced the above video has also produced this, which is certainly thought provoking: What I will say is this: we do not know the full extent of the site, and who knows what has been lost through time?
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Post by Avacyn on Mar 25, 2018 20:20:45 GMT
Conan Doyles and Brazilian royals visit the Great Sphinx
Members of the Brazilian royal family visited the Sphinx in 1871: Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was accompanied by members of his family on his speaking tour of West Africa. I wonder why he didn’t visit the Sphinx with them. Jean, Denis, Adrian and Billie Conan Doyle in Egypt in March 1929: Also, wasn't Conan Doyle into spiritualism? If so, it might mean another reason to visit the site.
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Post by Avacyn on Mar 25, 2018 20:30:52 GMT
A legacy of Imprisoned with the Pharaohs
This print with two sphinxes at the top and Harry Houdini in the middle was created by Michael Bukowski in 2014 It was inspired by the H.P. Lovecraft, Harry Houdini collaboration Imprisoned with the Pharaohs ( Under the Pyramids.) No, it was not a collaboration, unless you mean paying Lovecraft to ghostwrite the story as a collaboration. HP Lovecraft had ghostwritten a good number of stories, as a way to earn income. His lack of economics meant he was significantly undercharging for his efforts, being much cheaper than the going rate. Not a bad picture, though it is something of a butchery of Egyptian mythology. I don't recall a goat or hippo deity! There is Sobek and Ba'ast, and a distortion of Nefertiti. You also have the Aten sun disc imagary, which is not totally accurate. And I'm nitpicking the heck out of it, because of my obsession with detail. Sorry folks!
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Post by Avacyn on Mar 25, 2018 20:49:48 GMT
Very fascinating. For a while ancient Egypt has seamed to me like a hive of black magic (if there even is such thing as black and white magic but that is another topic). I have also have been assuming (be it because of gut feeling, something I have read years ago or both) that egypt used to be a very fertile and beautiful land in the past, especially around the nile. And now it is mainly a dessert. A few weaks ago I have come across a passage in the old testament of the bible which claimed that god turned egypt (and some other country) into a dessert as a punishment for the sins of their population. A few years ago I read in another book that a goddess made the near east dessert like because she got upset by the Islam. It can't be both because the events described in the old testament all happened long before the founder of Islam was born. Quite correct, it was much more fertile and lush than it is now. The whole Sahara was teeming with life. It is a very recent desert, to be honest. This documentary should fill you in on some of the details:
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Post by Avacyn on Mar 25, 2018 21:08:54 GMT
Could there be sphinxes in other parts of the world? This video makes the case or one such possibility, in Pakistan:
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 26, 2018 6:30:17 GMT
Mark Twain and the Sphinx
Mark Twain visited Egypt in 1867, and wrote this description of the Sphinx in his book The Innocents Abroad, or The New Pilgrims' Progress:“The Sphinx is grand in its loneliness; it is imposing in its magnitude; it is impressive in the mystery that hangs over its story. And there is that in the over-shadowing majesty of this eternal figure of stone, with its accusing memory of the deeds of all ages, which reveals to one something of what he shall find when he shall stand at last in the awful presence of God.” Here is the book, with one of illustration by True Williams: Avacyn the illustrator of Mark Twain’s book probably never saw the Sphinx himself. He has used artistic licence and given it an intact face! I didn’t know that it was Mark Twain who originated this amusing expression:
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 26, 2018 19:29:21 GMT
Mark Twain and the relic-hunter
Mark Twain saw an American tourist trying to chip away a relic from the face of the Sphinx: “There are some things which, for the credit of America, should be left unsaid, perhaps; but these very things happen sometimes to be the very things which, for the real benefit of Americans, ought to have prominent notice. While we stood looking, a wart, or an excrescence of some kind, appeared on the jaw of the Sphynx. We heard the familiar clink of a hammer, and understood the case at once. One of our well meaning reptiles—I mean relic-hunters—had crawled up there and was trying to break a “specimen” from the face of this the most majestic creation the hand of man has wrought. But the great image contemplated the dead ages as calmly as ever, unconscious of the small insect that was fretting at its jaw. Egyptian granite that has defied the storms and earthquakes of all time has nothing to fear from the tack-hammers of ignorant excursionists—highwaymen like this specimen.” True Williams’ illustration of the ‘reptile relic-hunter’, and another view of the Sphinx:
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 27, 2018 7:01:02 GMT
Sphinx in sunglasses Avacyn I can see that of the different types of sphinx statues to be found outside Egypt, you are primarily interested in the real deals, the antiquities. I like the high quality decorative ones, including replicas. London has some good examples. I am not so wild about the garish sphinxes that are used for advertising an attraction - the Luxor Hotel for example. This one is at a water park called Splash Kingdom , formerly known as Pharaoh’s Lost Kingdom, in California:
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 28, 2018 19:22:30 GMT
Sphinx on SF cover art
Sphinxes have inspired much artwork, including some for the classic science fiction magazines that flourished in the 1950s. I am not sure which, if any, story this picture applies to. It looks as though the whole area is flooded:
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 29, 2018 17:46:57 GMT
More SF sphinx art
This one looks like a killer:
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