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Post by UnseenI on May 11, 2018 16:50:33 GMT
The forthcoming attractions
I finally understand why people watch reality TV and soap operas. I can’t wait for next Saturday! However, I won’t be getting any of the memorabilia or special merchandise such as this:
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Post by UnseenI on May 12, 2018 6:09:03 GMT
Thomas Markle Junior still hopes for a wedding invitation
He has sent another open letter to Meghan, saying how hurt he is not to be invited: 'Meg I know that I’m not perfect, nor is anyone else in our family, as I’m sure you have read by now. But good, bad, or perfect, we’re the only family that you have,' he wrote in the letter, published on Friday by InTouch. 'It does hurt my feelings not getting invited to your wedding, along with the rest of the family. But it’s not too late to send me an invite along with your entire family.' " The two Thomases do like those dark blue shirts: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5719643/Its-not-late-send-invite-Meghan-Markles-estranged-brother-begs-attend-wedding.html#ixzz5FGMQcbVyThe DM has provided transcripts in the relevant articles for this and the other two letters he has written recently.
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Post by UnseenI on May 12, 2018 6:15:28 GMT
Thomas Markle and some royal connections
The future Queen Alexandra married Edward, Prince of Wales in the first ever wedding ceremony In St. George’s Chapel, Windsor. Only her immediate family came over from Denmark, and she was given away by her father, King Christian IX. Thomas Markle will also be giving his daughter away at a wedding in the chapel. Here are the two fathers of the bride: Unlikely as it seems, Thomas Markle also has something in common with Princess Alexandra. She is with one of her children and he is with Meghan:
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Post by UnseenI on May 13, 2018 7:02:09 GMT
Thomas Markle’s pictures were staged: what a surprise
The DM has published hard evidence that the recent pictures of Thomas Markle Senior were staged - for large sums of money. This has been obvious to most of us right from the start. The only surprise has been the number of commenters who say that his privacy is being invaded and people should leave him alone. I am not sure whether they are stupid sugars who take everything at face value or paid PR people and astro-turfers, similar to the people who ignore the evidence and dismiss all criticism of Meghan as jealousy or racism. The mastermind in the case is ruthless English paparazzo Jeff Rayner: I liked the suit measuring pictures best. The good old DM has found the young man who operated the tape-measure: “The Mail on Sunday spoke to the young man seen measuring Mr Markle’s waistline and neck. He was described as a ‘tailor’ in information supplied with the picture but this newspaper can reveal that he is 17-year-old David Flores, a student who works part-time in a shop supplying tables, chairs and bunting for parties. Mr Markle apparently turned up to the suit hire store last month only to find it closed, so recruited Mr Flores from nearby premises. Mr Flores revealed how Mr Markle appeared at the party shop with Rayner in tow. He said Mr Markle even supplied his own measuring tape, which he pulled from his trouser pocket. Mr Markle then instructed him to take measurements while Rayner snapped away… Mr Flores said: ‘It was really strange. This big American guy got the measuring tape out of his pocket and he was saying things in English. I don’t speak good English but I understood what he wanted me to do. The photographer he was with stepped back to the street and started taking pictures'" Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5721959/Meghan-Markles-father-STAGED-photos-paparazzi-sold-100-000.html#ixzz5FMF2FYcI So they used a party shop as the tailor was closed? That explains the brightly-coloured fabric in the pictures.
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Post by UnseenI on May 14, 2018 7:51:49 GMT
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Post by UnseenI on May 14, 2018 18:23:30 GMT
The Markles: the gift that keeps on giving
Now Samantha has taken responsibility for the staged photoshoots: “Samantha Markle has claimed it was her idea for Thomas Markle to be photographed in a series of royal wedding shoots where he lives in Mexico - including surfing the net for pictures of the couple and apparently being measured for a suit. But she claims that it was all to paint him - and Harry and Meghan - in a 'positive' light before he walks his daughter down the aisle at St George's Chapel, Windsor, on Saturday. The Mail on Sunday revealed that the pictures, taken with his co-operation, will have netted up to £100,000, but Samantha insists it wasn't done for money. She said: 'I'm entirely the culprit. I said to him to show the world "I'm getting in shape and getting healthy" so I suggested it to benefit him and the royal family'.” Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5726289/Meghan-Markles-half-sister-takes-blame-fathers-staged-paparazzi-photos.html#ixzz5FUlTvAw7 She said all this on a TV show, for which she wore pearls. Her hair used to be much lighter:
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Post by UnseenI on May 15, 2018 6:34:05 GMT
Harry and Meghan dolls
They remind me of the sinister figures with button eyes in Coraline:
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Post by UnseenI on May 15, 2018 6:35:42 GMT
Two mothers of the bride: a coincidence
As mentioned above, the future Queen Alexandra was married in St. George’s chapel, Windsor. Her parents, the King and Queen of Denmark, were in attendance. Her mother was Louise of Hesse-Kassel.
Assuming that Saturday’s wedding goes ahead, Meghan will be supported by her mother, whose middle name as previously mentioned is Loyce, a form of Louise.
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Post by UnseenI on May 15, 2018 17:43:47 GMT
The Markles are on the march
I can’t keep up with all the developments, never mind all the spin and speculation, claims and counter-claims, bluff and counter-bluff, cover stories, convenient excuses, lying and hypocrisy. The Markles are all telling different stories, and we will probably never know for sure who really said what and who wants Thomas Markle to come to the wedding and who doesn’t. The DM is the best bet for people who want a blow by blow account of which Markle has said and done what. The number of Markle articles increases every day, with comments reflecting many different theories and viewpoints. Thomas Markle, whose attendance has been in doubt and who has backtracked a few times, may be coming to the wedding after all. He said he doesn’t want to embarrass Meghan by coming, but surely it would look a lot worse if he didn’t. I wonder whether this is set up as a distraction from other developments - what don’t ‘they’ want us to think about? This lot have not been invited, but have come to London anyway. They are Thomas Markle Junior’s ex-wife Tracy, two sons and a girlfriend. They are going to be ‘special correspondents’ for TV. If they have come, maybe Thomas Junior and sister Samantha will be along soon too.
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Post by UnseenI on May 16, 2018 6:59:48 GMT
Thomas Markle Senior is too ill to come to the wedding
His heart problems mean that he is not able to fly. The latest story is that he is having major surgery tomorrow.
I am disappointed - I was so looking forward to seeing him on Saturday.
I still don’t know whether he really wanted to come and whether Meghan really wanted him to come. Maybe they were saying one thing and thinking another. Maybe he was never going to come and they have been playing silly games with us.
I wonder what further developments the next few days will bring.
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Post by UnseenI on May 16, 2018 16:49:12 GMT
Hearts again
There are many heart references in earlier posts. Thomas Markle has been reported as having a change of heart - about going, not going, or going after all to the wedding - on several occasions. Now he is alleged to be having heart trouble and even surgery. Maybe this is a face-saving cover story that someone has come up with. By coincidence, there is a jewellers company in Houston in the US called Thomas Markle, and they are selling a range called Hearts on Fire: www.thomasmarklejewelers.com/search/?q=hearts
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Post by UnseenI on May 17, 2018 18:14:36 GMT
Some sympathy for Samantha Markle
She has few supporters out there: most commenters are very critical of her. I do feel rather sorry for her though. I am not so sure about her father, but I think that she really wanted to be invited to the wedding. She made the point that they have added insult to injury by inviting a lot of strangers and celebrities instead of family. I have experienced something like this myself; it hurt terribly at the time and I am still very unhappy about it. In this picture of Samantha on her big day, Meghan seems to be putting herself forward and making herself the centre of attraction:
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Post by transformer on May 17, 2018 18:42:37 GMT
Hasn't it been a bonanza for royal watchers from Kate skipping down the steps in heels and wearing the mother of the antichrists dress after giving birth to an 8.5 pound baby (you can hardly walk after childbirth) to the fabulous Markles who throw some serious shade on my dysfuntional family. Check out this photo from Todays rehearsal look of structure of the care, which side is she sitting on??
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Post by transformer on May 17, 2018 18:51:29 GMT
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Post by UnseenI on May 18, 2018 6:22:26 GMT
“Hasn't it been a bonanza for royal watchers …” transformer I can still hardly believe what is happening. How did it come to this? I can’t keep up with all the developments. I have regressed since the good old days on the other forum and have not being looking too closely at pictures. I now agree that there is something very odd about your first picture: it doesn’t look much like Meghan. There may be nothing more to it than photographers not getting good pictures so doing a bit of enhancing, or, as you used to say, there are messages for us in it all. Tomorrow is the big bonanza day. I have cooled off a bit since hearing that Thomas Markle Sr. won’t take part, but still plan to watch the show. George and Charlotte will be there. Will you be able to see it live?
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Post by UnseenI on May 18, 2018 6:23:40 GMT
Hearts and car crashes: real or symbolic?
Maybe Thomas Markle’s heart problems have been invented or exaggerated to give him a good reason for not coming to the wedding. Samantha Markle claims to have been hurt in a car crash. There is no evidence that this crash actually happened. Is she trying to get sympathy and attention? What messages are there behind these alleged incidents? Hearts and car crashes remind me of Princess Diana. Her father Earl Spencer had heart trouble...
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Post by aletheia on May 18, 2018 15:41:07 GMT
There has been so much coverage of this event, it would be impossible for me to get on top of it all! I'll summarise my opinion here: What I have noted is several instances where tradition has been eschewed; not a surprise given the epoch we have entered or are in the process of entering if one follows astrological trends. I wonder what they are playing at by not doing things the right way; it seems like this is a vain attempt to win back public support for an institution that has been in acute decline these past years. Ms Markle strikes me as rather narcissistic and seems to have abandoned most of her family by all these stories that have surfaced. The photo below caught my eye – from the DM – which shows some children acting out the Royal Wedding. What was of minor interest here is that the surname of the young princess-to-be here is Sherlock.
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Post by UnseenI on May 18, 2018 18:04:40 GMT
“I wonder what they are playing at by not doing things the right way; it seems like this is a vain attempt to win back public support for an institution that has been in acute decline these past years.” aletheia if that is the case then the attempt is indeed vain. It may backfire spectacularly and create even more people who think that the monarchy is past its sell-by date. Some people are suggesting that Meghan is having everything the way she wants it, and may even be using blackmail! Bowl food (I had to look that one up), product placement, Meghan being given away by her future father-in-law, only one member of her family present ... what a travesty. And then there is the estimated cost of £30 million for security - all paid for out of our tax money. I bought some popcorn this afternoon, to eat while I watch tomorrow’s circus - at home, not on the streets like this lot of dedicated royal fans who have been camping out so as to get a good view:
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Post by UnseenI on May 18, 2018 18:06:23 GMT
Sherlock Holmes and the royal family
There are Sherlock Holmes connections in various threads. The new reference to Sherlock you found may be just a coincidence, but I am thinking of A Scandal in Bohemia and the incriminating royal pictures in the Baker St. bank robbery case. The name may be a message. Benedict Cumberbatch has been mentioned several times on here. I am surprised that he hasn’t been invited: “When asked about the royal wedding, Benedict Cumberbatch said: ‘I think it's great.’ He added: ‘I've met him [Prince Harry] once but I've not met her. He's great and she seems amazing. I really respect what she stands for and how she holds herself in public.’" ‘Sherlock Holmes’ behind Prince Harry at a rugby match: www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/prince-harry-meghan-markles-unlikely-12542760
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Post by UnseenI on May 19, 2018 6:16:41 GMT
Queen Victoria and two royal weddings
When Alexandra of Denmark married Bertie, Prince of Wales in St. George’s Chapel, Windsor in 1863, it was a relatively quiet wedding. Only her parents and siblings were present, so there were many disappointed Danes. It was a small wedding because Queen Victoria was in mourning for Prince Albert; she watched the proceedings from the balcony above. Princess Alexandra was 18 years old. She was handed over by her father to the protection of the Prince of Wales. Queen Victoria with the happy couple. Is that Prince Albert on the pedestal? This time too there are many disappointed relations of the bride. Perhaps the mother of the groom will be watching from above too. The rest is rather a travesty: Meghan’s age, her previous marriage(s), having the groom’s father for an escort, not to mention her independent life for many years... and a religious ceremony that probably means little to the participants. Queen Victoria is in a good position on her pedestal for watching the procession in the streets of Windsor. I wonder what she would think of the circus that will take place later today.
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Post by UnseenI on May 19, 2018 19:04:26 GMT
I am very disgusted by what I saw today. I like tradition and dignity; I do not like gospel music and American preacher men. If this is what the monarchy has come to, I hope it ends soon.
The dress cost a fortune and looked like nothing too.
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Post by aletheia on May 19, 2018 19:25:15 GMT
I was aghast at how long that Bishop from the Episcopal Church carried on for. Sir Elton John couldn't stop his face from showing his displeasure too. The ceremony was a reckless flouting of tradition and I had to stop watching as I was cringing a bit. At least now the hubbub can die down; something like this really does distract from other important events that fly under the RADAR.
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Post by aletheia on May 19, 2018 19:55:09 GMT
UnseenI said: " aletheia if that is the case then the attempt is indeed vain. It may backfire spectacularly and create even more people who think that the monarchy is past its sell-by date. Some people are suggesting that Meghan is having everything the way she wants it, and may even be using blackmail!" _____________ I guess these two lines sum it up pretty much. Is her grand plan to make a mockery of the British monarchy and precipitate/accelerate its downfall? If it isn't, she's doing her bit either way. I hope that the Duke of Sussex is not making a grave mistake but it is hard to find much of a positive in all this.
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Post by UnseenI on May 20, 2018 6:45:09 GMT
“The ceremony was a reckless flouting of tradition and I had to stop watching as I was cringing a bit.”
I switched the sound off and stopped watching when that American bishop started preaching: I just couldn’t take it.
I expect that Meghan has no idea of how inappropriate that ‘act’ was.
She got what she wanted: a show-biz extravaganza of a multi-cultural wedding. I wonder whether this will be as good as it gets for her.
I doubt whether she consciously plans to bring down the monarchy - that would be the last thing she would want - but perhaps she is being used by the powers behind the scenes.
I thought that Prince Harry did not look too happy much of the time, resigned rather. And Prince George is not a happy child.
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Post by aletheia on May 20, 2018 8:07:19 GMT
It did seem to be an big exhibition of the multi-culti orthodoxy & the major news networks (Sky News in particular) have not stopped banging on about what M. M. will do for "black Britain". Yes, more likely that she is just a pawn in whatever game is being played. She looks conniving but in a different way ... I thought Prince William looked especially odd during that ceremony; didn't seem like plain nervousness as the commentary was saying. Did you notice anything off about him, UnseenI?
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Post by transformer on May 20, 2018 8:29:50 GMT
Hi Aletheia - the media has made many hints of a feud in the royal family. I think we saw that feud revealed in that ceremony. Prince Harry (remember he's an imposter swapped at aged 8, the real one died in 2016 in a hail of bullets) was chatting to PWill waiting at the alter. William turned his back on his 'brother' and looked away angrily. But the big giveaway apart from the glum faces was the lack of a curtsey. The bride must show here reverence for the Queen and curtsey deeply on exiting the church when passing in front of her. She didn't she sailed glacially by in her fabulous Givenchy frock (200k). Harry didn't manage much of a bow. This is the equivalent of giving the Queen the finger. So I think this wasn't so much a wedding as a coup. She has backers and she is the brassy Soho house girl with nothing to lose and everything to gain. Her backers must have cracked the champagne last night.
I've a keen interest in medieval era and royalty is a medieval institution. To gain power traditionally marriages were used. It is something we've overlooked and tend to think of Hollywood representations of it in terms of love. Medieval marriages were rarely for love and always for power. So to take down or control this institution you do it this way.
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Post by UnseenI on May 20, 2018 18:20:01 GMT
aletheia I hardly remember seeing William - I had to stop watching so many times. The wedding ceremony may be put on YouTube but at the moment I just can’t face it! “So I think this wasn't so much a wedding as a coup. She has backers and she is the brassy Soho house girl with nothing to lose and everything to gain. Her backers must have cracked the champagne last night.” This sounds very likely transformer. I do not accept the top level story, the fairytale that Meghan and Harry just happened to meet and decided they had both found the right person. That is for the sugars. Below that we have the story that Meghan is a social climber who took care to get into the right circles and hunted Harry down. Then we have your backers: they might get a lot of contacts, money and publicity now; they can jump on her bandwagon. And who is backing the backers? What is going on at the deepest level? Are they all pawns in some game? Some people are never satisfied. I am wondering whether Meghan’s next move will be to try to get William for herself - or undermine him so that Harry becomes the heir! That really would be a coup.
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Post by Avacyn on May 20, 2018 21:51:36 GMT
A message from Thomas Markle
He won’t be getting much peace in the coming days: he hasn’t seen anything yet! Three parts to the finger. It's 33 symbolism. Possibly a message to someone, somewhere.
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Post by Avacyn on May 20, 2018 21:53:04 GMT
Is that a Masonic guesture he's displaying there?
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Post by Avacyn on May 20, 2018 22:07:46 GMT
This is a good seven minute twenty one second video on Mehgan, which I think might well interest people:
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