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Post by Avacyn on May 20, 2018 22:21:02 GMT
Hi Aletheia - the media has made many hints of a feud in the royal family. I think we saw that feud revealed in that ceremony. Prince Harry (remember he's an imposter swapped at aged 8, the real one died in 2016 in a hail of bullets) was chatting to PWill waiting at the alter. William turned his back on his 'brother' and looked away angrily. But the big giveaway apart from the glum faces was the lack of a curtsey. The bride must show here reverence for the Queen and curtsey deeply on exiting the church when passing in front of her. She didn't she sailed glacially by in her fabulous Givenchy frock (200k). Harry didn't manage much of a bow. This is the equivalent of giving the Queen the finger. So I think this wasn't so much a wedding as a coup. She has backers and she is the brassy Soho house girl with nothing to lose and everything to gain. Her backers must have cracked the champagne last night.
I've a keen interest in medieval era and royalty is a medieval institution. To gain power traditionally marriages were used. It is something we've overlooked and tend to think of Hollywood representations of it in terms of love. Medieval marriages were rarely for love and always for power. So to take down or control this institution you do it this way.
Interesting theory. What I'll add to that is this: If it turns out Kate has had surrogacies, thus her children are not eligable for the throne... It feels more and more like some sort of elaborate chess game going on. Lots of moves, and strategems, to get all of the "pieces" (Royal members) in the right places...
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Post by transformer on May 21, 2018 6:05:54 GMT
The problem I think is two fold: a reign that has gone on too long, an old lady in her 90s who has simply no idea how cut throat society has become: secondly a highly corrupt royal family (Mountbatten was a notorious pedophile, Prince Philip was into sex parties, Prince Charles was a close friend of Jimmy Sovile for 40 years, Prince Andrew and underage girls / Epstein and the pedophile island, William marries Kate who is transgender and then Diana had a child fathered by Mark Dyer - this last is highly suppressed in the media) So the family are wide open to blackmail and players that would like to control their wealth and power. There is no way, simply no way in the world that Meghan Markle from a broken family of bankrupts, already twice married got to marry Prince Harry without powerful players having the dirt and threatening disclosure. These players would have funded her very expensive PR campaign, media stories at the right time, not to mention training her. Soho House is a discrete brothel and she worked there - she is an escort. The blinds on CDAN said she traded sexual favours with Harvey weinstein in exchange for cocaine for example. So this is why I call this wedding a coup and not a marriage.
A picture tells a thousand words.
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Post by transformer on May 21, 2018 6:27:15 GMT
Others think along similar lines. Here is a comment I found but there are many similar ones
[quoteAdding to pedo ring comment : Another note; I’ve always suspected that MM was part of the ring. They brainwash you escorts etc- I’m surprised she has somewhat of a mind. TBH most are just fully brainwashed and used as puppets for sexual pleasures and agendas. If you watch political platforms for speeches etc; you’ll spot some familiar faces of men, women and children just being bystanders. They are slaves. MM offers herself, but they’ve also had her brainwashed and amped her ego. Thus the smug. [/quote]
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Post by transformer on May 21, 2018 6:40:59 GMT
Your theory about the chess game is interesting Avacyn. The Middleton family or at least Gary Goldsmith the pimp and drug pusher could they be controlled by the same group of players? A very interesting theory. I tended to think with the Middletons that they just wanted in, whereas with Meghan its a takeover. But the same group could be behind both of them. A really interesting theory.
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Post by transformer on May 21, 2018 7:21:43 GMT
Sorry to post so many times but hey on a roll. We've overlooked the symbolism - they got married on the anniversary of the beheading of Anne Bolyn by Henry VIII. I thought they chose the date as a tongue in cheek cos they didn't like her. But what if it wasn't the case? What did Henry do to marry her? Kicked out the catholic church to install his own religion. Why did he do it? Because he wanted an heir. Rewatch the black preachers sermon he talked about a new religion and a new heaven and earth. I found it creepy.
There was other symbolism that I found fascinating when they got engaged. She wore an outfit that was the exact copy of one worn by a DJ who had visited Kengington Palace the month before. The DJ in question tweeted about this saying she copied her look. The thing was the date of this DJ visiting KP was on the 710 year exactly of the ordering of the destruction of the Templars by Francois I. 13 October 1307. This french king was the contemporary of Henry VIII. The Templar symbol is a red cross on a white background, the flag of England.
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Post by UnseenI on May 21, 2018 7:46:01 GMT
No need to apologise transformer , quite the opposite: it was great to wake up to find a lot of action on this thread. Your posts will inspire more posts. I need to cool down a bit before looking again at this topic. In the meantime, speaking of chess it is a game where a pawn can be promoted to a queen. I wonder... Then there are people who try to break free from their backers once they attain their goal...
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Post by UnseenI on May 21, 2018 7:51:17 GMT
transformer you said that you are very interested in mediaeval history; I am fascinated by the Victorians myself. Dynastic marriages were made in later eras too. Queen Victoria promoted many of them. Royal children were still mainly pawns and puppets.
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Post by transformer on May 21, 2018 7:59:14 GMT
The news coverage has been saturation I think the Russians called it propaganda. But was it? Or was it a vast ritual. I don't normally find these things intersting but this tarot card reading it very interesting on this subject. She says that the wedding was a heart ritual to capture the hearts of the people (because the monarchys power is waning) Someone left this comment under the video above Now look closely at the revealed number plate of Harry and Meghans car as they drive to their rehearsal last Thursday (17 5 18) The number plates are always blanked out. This one reads; DY18 AYS. So I read that as DIE 18 Eyes or Ayes meaning yes. So the school shooting happened the following day on the 18th. I felt I know this sounds weird, but I felt watching that ceremony that there was a great emotional event and I didn't feel any emotion watching any other royal weddings. Did they use this as sacrificial magic?
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Post by UnseenI on May 21, 2018 15:13:50 GMT
The new coup at the palace
“The news coverage has been saturation …” That doesn’t begin to describe the coverage in the DM! The huge number of superficial, gushing and sugary articles and comments makes it very difficult to identify the significant and symbolic material. “There is no way, simply no way in the world that Meghan Markle from a broken family of bankrupts, already twice married got to marry Prince Harry without powerful players having the dirt and threatening disclosure.” transformer we said much the same about Jimmy Saville on the DIF and Kate Middleton and her sleazy connections on the old CC forum. The royals and their gatekeepers must have investigated these people so known what they were dealing with. I do agree though that there must be many more people involved in the case of Meghan Markle. To return to the media coverage, the DM mentions “Meghan’s manifesto”. She has promised to take the royal family in a new direction. If this is not a coup, to use your expression, I don’t know what is. You were spot on, and now we can expect to see her and her associates make their presence felt. The enemy is not just at the gates, they have broken into the inner sanctum. The monarchy has been invaded by a representative for political correctness, diversity, feminism, SJWs and all the other fashionable causes
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Post by UnseenI on May 21, 2018 15:14:47 GMT
Harry and Meghan: what really happened? transformer I could cry when I think of all your - and the other regulars’ - wonderful CC material that has disappeared. I saved everything of mine, but much of it is not relevant to this forum, is out of date or does not make sense without other people’s posts. I have re-posted some of my best material about the royals and other topics though. From what I remember, you found many examples of photoshopping in pictures of Harry with Meghan. I think we decided that she was releasing some of them herself, in an attempt to prove that they were still in a relationship. We thought that he had cooled off and stopped seeing her but she was still using his name to get money and publicity. We thought that people who were predicting an engagement were very wrong. Maybe we were right at the time, but something happened. She and her backers would not give up easily I think. There was a lot at stake for all of them. So then the engagement was announced. Then we wondered whether the marriage would really take place or would something happen to prevent it. Who knows what happened behind the scenes. But it did go ahead. To me, Harry is starting to look like James Matthews, as if he has been hunted down and captured. I wonder what the next developments will be.
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Post by UnseenI on May 21, 2018 16:58:32 GMT
Hearts, sign of worship/distress and other symbolism
It seems that the Markles are here to stay now that the wedding has taken place, so all symbolism and clues to their ascendancy are of great interest. I am re-posting this picture from Meghan Markle’s old Instagram because of subsequent posts about hearts and your recent comment about Thomas Markle Sr. possibly making a Masonic sign Avacyn. The whole thing reminds me of Alice in Wonderland. Some of those pictures on the wall are too good to be true:
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Post by UnseenI on May 21, 2018 17:47:56 GMT
Time through the looking glass?
What time is it on this clock in the wedding picture and the one in the Instagram picture above? I need a picture expert. Are they the same, with one reflected transformer? (I feel on a roll too!)
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Post by aletheia on May 22, 2018 17:13:45 GMT
Hi Aletheia - the media has made many hints of a feud in the royal family. I think we saw that feud revealed in that ceremony. Prince Harry (remember he's an imposter swapped at aged 8, the real one died in 2016 in a hail of bullets) was chatting to PWill waiting at the alter. William turned his back on his 'brother' and looked away angrily. But the big giveaway apart from the glum faces was the lack of a curtsey. The bride must show here reverence for the Queen and curtsey deeply on exiting the church when passing in front of her. She didn't she sailed glacially by in her fabulous Givenchy frock (200k). Harry didn't manage much of a bow. This is the equivalent of giving the Queen the finger. So I think this wasn't so much a wedding as a coup. She has backers and she is the brassy Soho house girl with nothing to lose and everything to gain. Her backers must have cracked the champagne last night.
I've a keen interest in medieval era and royalty is a medieval institution. To gain power traditionally marriages were used. It is something we've overlooked and tend to think of Hollywood representations of it in terms of love. Medieval marriages were rarely for love and always for power. So to take down or control this institution you do it this way.
Hi transformer, The mediæval comparison is interesting, the marriages from that time helped to solidify alliances or to bring warfare/tensions to an end. They were much more serious affairs just thinking back to how much negotiation and deliberation was carried out to decide who would be Richard II's queen. The modern trend for warfare between big powers is to sequester and internalise the battle. This is why we have these so-called wars over tariffs and tax levies and psychological operations between the superpowers on the world stage. I'd love to know what internal battles are being waged right now in the monarchy ...
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Post by transformer on May 23, 2018 6:21:36 GMT
This sounds an intersting topic to expand on another thread. But I think you have the key to understanding this royal coup
On the Alice topic - I thought there were loads of references.
Alice through the looking glass is all about the white pawn Alice who moves through the chess game to become Queen. The story is set on a chessboard
The engagement - in KP garden. In chapter one Alice goes through the looking glass into the Garden of living flowers where she meets the Red Queen. Meghan got engaged and married in pure white.
The wedding - set in a castle with black and white bishops a queen and plenty of knights. There was no carpet on the knave floor and so they walked over a chequer board pattern on the floor.
In chapter 6 Alice meets the lion and the unicorn symbol of the monarch. If you look at the family photo Doria wore virtually the same colour as the queen. This apparently is not done must be a different colour. So it is as though there is a black and white queen in the looking glass image (there was another reference to this which puzzled me - Doria left her home in CA wearing a dog t shirt and the next day the queen was filmed going to the wedding rehearsals with Meghans beagle dog in the car so there was a specific linking of the two women again)
Exit Meghan wears Dianas aquamarine ring. Diana referred to herself as the Queen of Hearts. This was a character from Alice in Wonderland and she represents ungovernable passion. There is a scene where white roses are painted red. (a war of the roses or bloodlines reference)
In chapter 10 Alice now the white queen captures the red queen to get a checkmate.
Now a few days before this unlikely wedding Doria went to see Oprah Winfrey who at last minute got invited. So as Meghan had said in her vantity fair interview 'there are stories to tell', it was after this article (the editor of the magazine was fired the following day he'd been editor for 18 years) that Meghan first appeared officially with Harry at the IG games. I think there were manoeverings to get wedding called off and Doria just did a final arm twist to nudge the ball into the goal.
Who is using this chess game imagery so spectactularly at the moment? Why Q.
Meghan was a Soho House escort. Soho house is majority owned by a Mr Brock. He has a penchant for underage girls, used to be a friend of Geoffrey Epstein and his jet he calls Airfxxk One. He is a friend of Donald Trump. He was at the wedding. So I'd say Mr Trump and the White House are behind this coup and Meghan is the pawn but will she be elevated to Queen?
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Post by transformer on May 23, 2018 6:51:21 GMT
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Post by UnseenI on May 23, 2018 7:05:45 GMT
Meghan and the Markles: some key themes
It is uncanny how many connections the Markles have to topics, symbols and themes that we are particularly interested in - and how many exciting new ones they have generated! References, both pictorial and verbal, are scattered all over this thread, with some pictures highlighted by also being posted in the relevant thread of the cross- board section. I thought it might be useful to summarise the main themes as they might reveal clues to the Markles’ sudden appearance on the world stage. Personal names with significant meanings. Thomas, Rachel; Zane; Doria; Louis and Loyce; Place names with Markle and royal connections. Windsor Hills; Coronado; Buckingham Parkway; Monk Haven and Milford Haven. There are York connections too. Red hair and blue/pale eyes. Thomas Markle Senior and Junior have this rare colouring, and ex-wife/mother Roslyn may have too. Blue Orange. There are several pictures of Markles wearing these colours. Hearts and the colour purple. Many references up-thread. Pigs. A Meghan look-alike was in an advertisement with a pig. Meghan put a picture of a book called How to Roast a Pig on her old Instagram. Rabbits. Thomas Markle Jr. wore a T-shirt with conejo, the Spanish word for rabbit, on it. There are many other references to rabbits in this thread. The sign of worship/distress. Thomas Markle senior has made a similar sign, and it appears in a picture from Meghan’s Instagram. The twins who carried her veil raised their arms too. Alice in Wonderland and Harry Potter connections. Lavendel made many great posts about that last one.
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Post by UnseenI on May 23, 2018 7:08:17 GMT
The bee is the symbol for Manchester, and it is the anniversary of the bombings.
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Post by UnseenI on May 23, 2018 17:30:06 GMT
Henry (Harry) and Thomas then and now
From transformer: “They got married on the anniversary of the beheading of Anne Boleyn by Henry VIII. I thought they chose the date as a tongue in cheek cos they didn't like her. But what if it wasn't the case? What did Henry do to marry her? Kicked out the catholic church to install his own religion.” This has reminded me of something: there were two or three Thomases in that case! I need to refresh my memory, but I think that Thomas Cromwell worked on arranging the divorce/annulment from Catherine of Aragon whereas Thomas More was against it. Thomas Wolsey was involved too I think. So we have several Thomases then and two Thomas Markles now. There is also the Harry Potter connection, with Tom Riddle Senior and Junior. Thomas More’s second wife was called Alice Middleton by the way. The religious aspect is a whole other story.
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Post by UnseenI on May 24, 2018 7:58:59 GMT
The Queen and the wedding transformer I agree that some pictures speak for themselves. A few commenters are making excuses for the Queen, saying that she is worried about Prince Philip. I think that she just does not approve of this marriage:
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Post by UnseenI on May 25, 2018 7:14:18 GMT
The Queen is not amused
Probably a composite picture, but one with a message:
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Post by UnseenI on May 25, 2018 7:15:35 GMT
Red and white roses yet again
We have mentioned red and white roses many times, often in connection with Alice in Wonderland and the Wars of the Roses. I wonder whether it is just chance that they appear - top right - on the cover for a new graphic novel:
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Post by UnseenI on May 26, 2018 6:19:21 GMT
"Rewatch the black preachers sermon he talked about a new religion and a new heaven and earth. I found it creepy." transformer I still haven't been able to bring myself to watch this sermon, but what you have said is alarming. It makes me think of the New World Order.
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Post by UnseenI on May 26, 2018 17:04:11 GMT
Harry Windsor and the strange associations
Wherever there is royalty, we often find imposters, half-blood princes, impersonators, look-alikes, claimants and pretenders. transformer you have mentioned James Alexander and Mark Dyer in connection with Prince Harry. There is a tangled web to sort out here, and Prince Harry is at the centre of it. Much of it is speculation and allegation, but the fact that he attracts it may be significant: no smoke without fire and all that. I need to investigate some things. In the meantime, a reminder that imposters and pretenders Perkin Warbeck and Lambert Simnel, who claimed to be nephews of Richard III, are featured in the Miscellaneous thread. There is another angle in that Richard III had questioned the paternity of his nephews. Not only did the boys and their backers need to convince people that they were the real thing, they needed people to believe that the real thing was the real thing! History repeats itself: someone claimed to be the real Prince Harry, and Harry’s paternity has also been questioned. While I think that he looks like a Spencer and that the more the years pass the more he resembles Prince Charles, I think that something may be going on. Then there are all those hand signs he makes. There is not much point in giving ‘secret signals’ if millions of tabloid readers know what they mean, but again maybe they really do show that something sinister is going on:
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Post by UnseenI on May 27, 2018 6:18:32 GMT
Matthew Harbor: Prince Harry look-alike
Matthew Harbor, former student builder, is of interest mainly because people have used a picture of him with Prince Charles in connection with James Alexander, the man who allegedly claimed to be the real Prince Harry. It all started with a DM article from 2009: “Prince of Wales does a double take over Harry lookalike The face was certainly familiar – but not the activity. Prince Charles seemed to have bumped into his son Harry on an official visit yesterday. But would the young royal, famous for loving the party life, really have been busy with a trowel? Probably not, but the Prince of Wales could be forgiven for his double take when he saw student builder Matthew Harbor. At 18, he is six years younger than Harry but could still try his luck as a royal lookalike. The pair met when Prince Charles visited a £7.2million skills academy at Kirkby-in-Ashfield, Nottinghamshire. Matthew, of Mansfield, later told how he has always been mistaken for Harry.” Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1151303/Prince-Wales-does-double-Harry-lookalike.html#ixzz5Gd56Dg5R Matthew’s eyes look less blue than Harry’s, more hazel, but he certainly looks very like him. Note the trowel:
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Post by UnseenI on May 27, 2018 6:23:10 GMT
Matthew Harbor’s picture was mis-used
Matthew Harbor’s 2009 encounter with Prince Charles was mentioned in a few publications at the time, but there is nothing more to be found online about Matthew. Maybe he is now hard at work building houses. The picture of him with Prince Charles shown above has much more recently been used to illustrate articles about James Alexander, ‘the real Prince Harry’. Note that the trowel has been cropped: “An encounter between Mr Alexander and Prince Charles at the 2014 London Book Fair had resulted in a rather digraceful scene, as the heir to the British throne called the young man “a little bastard”, before telling him to “leave his family alone”.” From World News Daily Report, a fake news website. Was this deception deliberate or unknowing? I don’t know. James Alexander and the sites with articles about him and his death need more investigation to see which one first published this picture - and the entire story for that matter.
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Post by UnseenI on May 28, 2018 6:13:29 GMT
Closed down for getting close to the truth?
@questioneverything , re what you said about KMReview and MMReview: I just don’t know. The author said there would be a short break for personal reasons.
I have no doubt that the royal PR people would like to see only good things said about all the royals, but the genie is out of the bottle. This is the internet age. I do think that some people go too far - in various ways. They make wild, unsubstantiated claims, pass on unpleasant rumours or sound very spiteful and mean-spirited for example.
For me, it is a question of not letting the royals fool us and get our support under false pretences.
I think that the Sherlock Holmes approach is best. The truth is what matters most.
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Post by UnseenI on May 28, 2018 6:17:31 GMT
James Alexander and Prince Harry
I am not too good with pictures and have not been able to investigate the James Alexander story yet, but see that the allegation has been resurrected because of the recent wedding: “The real Prince Harry would not have married Meghan Markle.”
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Post by UnseenI on May 29, 2018 19:13:00 GMT
James Alexander “The real Prince Harry” again
I first heard of this man around November 9th 2016, when transformer mentioned this him on the old CC forum: “… also think this alleged affair has deflected attention from the strange death of James Alexander in Dublin. Whether or not he is the real Prince Harry it deserved media attention.” I can’t remember what the affair was. I saved the mention because I quoted it in June/July 2017 in a post about the imposters Perkin Warbeck and Lambert Simnel. I did this because Lambert Simnel was actually crowned Edward VI in Dublin, which was where James Alexander is alleged to have died. I thought it was a good coincidence. I do agree that it is false news and/or a joke, triggered by the original 2009 picture. I don’t want to link to clickbait sites or those with a bad reputation so will just say that some commenter somewhere said that the real Harry would not have married Meghan.
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Post by Avacyn on May 29, 2018 22:43:30 GMT
Sorry to post so many times but hey on a roll. Well, don't do it again! Seriously, it's all good with me. You're not spamming or anything, It is all contributing to the discussion. So... carry right along. Note to everyone: I have no issue with people posting a string of times in any thread, as long as it is not spam, abusive to members, or such forth. I'm using my Mod Voice, to make sure people know it is abosolutely fine with me!
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Post by Avacyn on May 29, 2018 22:52:47 GMT
Hearts, sign of worship/distress and other symbolism
It seems that the Markles are here to stay now that the wedding has taken place, so all symbolism and clues to their ascendancy are of great interest. I am re-posting this picture from Meghan Markle’s old Instagram because of subsequent posts about hearts and your recent comment about Thomas Markle Sr. possibly making a Masonic sign Avacyn . The whole thing reminds me of Alice in Wonderland. Some of those pictures on the wall are too good to be true: Also from UnseenI: Was there not a chess game in Alice in Wonderland? And Alice became a Queen? Also, black and white stripes. Again, Masonic.
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