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Post by UnseenI on Dec 4, 2017 6:51:02 GMT
This whole affair needs to be looked at on several levels. I am finding more and more examples of significant images. For example, these angel wings that are getting into several threads - and we get the one eye and some blue and orange too:
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Post by UnseenI on Dec 4, 2017 6:59:23 GMT
Popcorn is essential! Who knows what will be revealed between now and the wedding?
I have been wondering whether this will be the start of another exodus on the part of the more traditional palace staff.
A case could be made for the royal family following PR suggestions about diversity, but I doubt whether the Queen really approves of this match. I thought that Harry had cooled off and wanted to move on, but Meghan hung on - rather as Kate did with William. At a slightly lower level, maybe Meghan has some incriminating information and used it to blackmail him.
Then there is all the symbolism. Half black, half white...
She does seem to be enjoying all the attention, but to me Harry looks a little subdued.
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Post by UnseenI on Dec 4, 2017 7:08:37 GMT
"They are more like spoiled, pampered children, than responsible, capable adults."
Your words remind me that Edward VIII was said to have suffered from arrested development.
I was wondering whether William and Harry deliberately married into unsuitable families in the hope that this would help to disqualify them from the line of succession. Perhaps royal duties seem too much like hard work to them.
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Post by Avacyn on Dec 4, 2017 22:39:34 GMT
Popcorn is essential! Who knows what will be revealed between now and the wedding? I have been wondering whether this will be the start of another exodus on the part of the more traditional palace staff. A case could be made for the royal family following PR suggestions about diversity, but I doubt whether the Queen really approves of this match. I thought that Harry had cooled off and wanted to move on, but Meghan hung on - rather as Kate did with William. At a slightly lower level, maybe Meghan has some incriminating information and used it to blackmail him. Then there is all the symbolism. Half black, half white... She does seem to be enjoying all the attention, but to me Harry looks a little subdued. Here is the thing: He was likely trying to either hold of marrying altogether, or had tried to fond someone that already knew, and was okay with the whole lunacy that goes on behind closed doors. Cressida Bonas, by the way - ex-girlfriend of Harry - has asristocratic ancestors. It is always about bloodline, ulitmately. With him being currently fifth (Soon to be sixth) in line to the throne, the chances of him actually being King are remote, to say the least. So, there is that. As for Harry, he looks like a man under seige. I don't think it was his idea at all, and I honestly think he is being pushed into it. And yes, there are levels to this: Why has this my attention? Here is why: This is all ritual, all carefully being designed.
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Post by UnseenI on Dec 5, 2017 7:13:42 GMT
Harry wears animal hats too
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Post by UnseenI on Dec 5, 2017 7:17:17 GMT
"As for Harry, he looks like a man under seige. I don't think it was his idea at all, and I honestly think he is being pushed into it."
I have my suspicions about this too. I try to look at all possibilities, but this one is very likely. I did wonder whether this engagement was an act of revenge - for Princess Diana's death. It might hit some of his older family members where it hurts most. It makes the royal family seem much less royal.
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Post by UnseenI on Dec 5, 2017 7:25:43 GMT
Avacyn you said that we should look closely at these young women who marry into the royal family. In Meghan's case, some connections may be tenuous but when added up they seem significant. It is interesting that her mother and Kate's mother were both flight attendants for example. Her mother now lives in a place called Windsor Hills and her father lives in a place in Mexico from where the Coronado islands can be seen.
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Post by UnseenI on Dec 5, 2017 19:46:40 GMT
Meghan Markle and some Monarch butterflies
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Post by UnseenI on Dec 5, 2017 19:47:46 GMT
Harry the hunter
The Daily Mail baffles me sometimes. Are they in favour of or against the continuation of the monarchy? Do they just publish whatever they think will attract the most attention, positive or negative? I thought I detected a policy of praising Harry at William’s expense at one time, however there is a tale-telling undertone in this report: “Harry took the opportunity to sneak in a quick hunting trip just days before the couple were reunited in London last week. Prince Harry was among the 50-strong group who set out to hunt wild boar, deer and ‘just about anything you could point a gun at’, says one friend, who describes it as a ‘very bloody weekend’. Prince Harry was a guest at the castle earlier this year to witness his friend Prince Franz Albrecht zu Oettingen-Spielberg wed Cleopatra von Adelsheim von Ernest, who, like Markle, is also an actress.” Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4046340/Prince-Harry-sneaks-hunting-trip-Bavaria-Meghan-Markle-films-Canada.html#ixzz4TLxZPouA
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Post by UnseenI on Dec 6, 2017 6:57:46 GMT
Grace van Cutsem the hunter - not for the squeamish
Grace is the grand-daughter of Hugh van Cutsem and Prince William's goddaughter. The van Cutsems lived at Anmer Hall for a while and have a close relationship with the royals. “Grace Van Cutsem became an internet sensation aged three after William and Kate’s wedding in 2011. A cute photo of her on the Buckingham Palace balcony was shared thousands of times across the world. She upstaged the royal couple’s kiss, pulling a face and putting her hands over her ears during an RAF flypast. But four years on, the now eight-year-old Grace is pictured with her hands and coat smeared with blood in a snap uploaded by her mum Rose Astor on Instagram.” www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/478210/Prince-William-goddaughter-in-gory-hunting-photos-Grace-Van-Cutsem-deer-heartI felt sorry for her at the time because I am sensitive to noise myself. She seems to have toughened up a bit and goes hunting now; she is happy to hold the heart of a deer:
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Post by UnseenI on Dec 7, 2017 8:14:39 GMT
Kate “wants to have the baby at home in KP”
“It would spare Kate the ordeal of facing hundreds of paparazzi, as she had to do straight after leaving the maternity unit with George and Charlotte, and allow her children to meet their sibling in the privacy of their own home. My well-placed informant says: ‘The Duchess knew it wasn’t possible for her first baby to be born at home, but she asked for a home birth for the second. Officials and doctors thought it too risky. There was concern and in the end she decided against it.’” Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4868988/GIRL-TOWN-Kate-keen-home-birth.html#ixzz4sFfc99hS This could be speculation. It could well be true: it would be a good way to stop more allegations about dolls. If it is true, it will disappoint the sort of people who stake out the hospital, even sleeping in the street while waiting for the announcement as this man with his bottle and dummy did in 2015:
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Post by UnseenI on Dec 7, 2017 20:16:18 GMT
Jessica Craig and Princess Charlotte
Jessica Craig is a ‘Kenyan socialite’. She is said to be an ex-girlfriend of Prince William’s, and he went to Kenya for her wedding – without Kate. Jessica had had a baby boy some months earlier. It was Lavendel who first drew our attention to a likeness between Princess Charlotte and Jessica. She put up some pictures on the CC forum. It was a major contribution to the surrogacy thread. Unfortunately her posts on this subject have gone from the Google cache, and the Wayback Machine has not saved the relevant pages – it looks as though it only copies about 6 pages of a thread. What a pity. Lavender’s appearance on this site yesterday reminded me of Jessica Craig. The topic is worth resurrecting. I can’t remember what pictures were used; I am sure there are better examples out there, but these will do to start with:
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Post by Avacyn on Dec 7, 2017 23:44:05 GMT
Grace van Cutsem the hunter - not for the squeamish
Grace is the grand-daughter of Hugh van Cutsem and Prince William's goddaughter. The van Cutsems lived at Anmer Hall for a while and have a close relationship with the royals. “Grace Van Cutsem became an internet sensation aged three after William and Kate’s wedding in 2011. A cute photo of her on the Buckingham Palace balcony was shared thousands of times across the world. She upstaged the royal couple’s kiss, pulling a face and putting her hands over her ears during an RAF flypast. But four years on, the now eight-year-old Grace is pictured with her hands and coat smeared with blood in a snap uploaded by her mum Rose Astor on Instagram.” www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/478210/Prince-William-goddaughter-in-gory-hunting-photos-Grace-Van-Cutsem-deer-heartI felt sorry for her at the time because I am sensitive to noise myself. She seems to have toughened up a bit and goes hunting now; she is happy to hold the heart of a deer: Another picture from that occasion: And she is holding a deer's heart, whilst wearing blue animal print leggings/trousers. Why that organ, I wonder? SOURCE: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deer_in_mythologyTaking a wild guess here, of course. I could be wrong, and there is no connection at all, or not what I listed above. But here is something to remember: thre is a massive emphasis in hunting with the Royal Family. And Kate has not taken part in the past...
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Post by Avacyn on Dec 8, 2017 0:32:56 GMT
Avacyn you said that we should look closely at these young women who marry into the royal family. In Meghan's case, some connections may be tenuous but when added up they seem significant. It is interesting that her mother and Kate's mother were both flight attendants for example. Her mother now lives in a place called Windsor Hills and her father lives in a place in Mexico from where the Coronado islands can be seen. I see your point... crowned crown, coronate; diadem; top, pinnacle; queen queen SOURCE: translation.babylon-software.com/spanish/to-english/coronado/Also, here is something of interest. I learnt of it earlier today. SOURCE: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meghan_MarkleSo, she has been exposed to Hollywood as a child, and has been to a Catholic private school. Does that mean she is Catholic? If so, that will make it interesting for her! Also... a divorcee? Even better! It worked so well the last time there was an American divorcee in the House of Windsor... But what has my interest is the fact she was on the set of Married With Children. I get suspicious with such series, and.. lo, an interesting trinket of information: SOURCE: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Married..._with_ChildrenThis immediately makes me think of Full House, which had similar stuff in it. There is a lot of things of interest with that show, and I am left wondering if there is more going on, under a layer or two, not to mention behind the scenes. But wait... what was that Skippy? She has the right stuff to join the Royal Club, you say? SOURCE: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meghan_MarkleEdward III... what might be so interesting with him, I wonder? SOURCE: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_III_of_EnglandSo... it could be seen that she might have a solid lineage, thus improve the bloodline stock. As a speculation.
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Post by Avacyn on Dec 8, 2017 0:34:57 GMT
Jessica Craig and Princess Charlotte
Jessica Craig is a ‘Kenyan socialite’. She is said to be an ex-girlfriend of Prince William’s, and he went to Kenya for her wedding – without Kate. Jessica had had a baby boy some months earlier. It was Lavendel who first drew our attention to a likeness between Princess Charlotte and Jessica. She put up some pictures on the CC forum. It was a major contribution to the surrogacy thread. Unfortunately her posts on this subject have gone from the Google cache, and the Wayback Machine has not saved the relevant pages – it looks as though it only copies about 6 pages of a thread. What a pity. Lavender’s appearance on this site yesterday reminded me of Jessica Craig. The topic is worth resurrecting. I can’t remember what pictures were used; I am sure there are better examples out there, but these will do to start with: I've seen it said that with these bloodlines, some children are placed in surrogate families, to rais up as their own. It would make sense here, I suspect.
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Post by UnseenI on Dec 8, 2017 6:29:40 GMT
There is a lot more to look into now. Unlike Kate and George, Kate and Charlotte seem very comfortable with each other.
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Post by UnseenI on Dec 8, 2017 6:35:22 GMT
Knowing what we know now about what goes on, it all sounds very sinister. It is Meghan's father's alleged lottery win that interests me. I wonder whether it really was some kind of payment.
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Post by UnseenI on Dec 8, 2017 9:20:13 GMT
Hearts, harts, hunting and the royal family
“Taking a wild guess here, of course. I could be wrong, and there is no connection at all, or not what I listed above. But here is something to remember: there is a massive emphasis in hunting with the Royal Family. “ Avacyn your ‘wild guesses’ often hit the spot. I won’t quote everything you said, but it has not only reminded me of material I put on the old forum but also triggered a few new ideas. For starters, here is what Princess Diana’s brother said at her funeral: “It is a point to remember that of all the ironies about Diana, perhaps the greatest was this - a girl given the name of the ancient goddess of hunting was, in the end, the most hunted person of the modern age.” The hart/heart connection has only just occurred to me. Strictly speaking, a hart is a red deer stag over five years old, but this word was often used as a synonym for a deer. So we have the heart of a hart in Grace van Cutsem’s case. Hunting as a sport has been discussed to death elsewhere – let’s not go there. I just want to look at some symbolic aspects. This is interesting: “…a white hart - an animal both rare and revered in equal measure - which was spotted this week roaming the New Forest. Since time immemorial, the white hart has been a creature surrounded by mystery, a beast whose very existence is suffused with myth and legend. An inescapable part of British folklore, its mystical quality led to it being adopted as a symbol of royalty, which is why a multitude of White Hart pubs is scattered around the country. Some believe that this New Forest white hart could even be a direct descendant of the same white deer that Henry VII hunted in the area in the 15th century.” Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-514249/How-magical-white-hart-inspires-legends-thousand-pubs.html#ixzz50evQDkQz
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Post by UnseenI on Dec 8, 2017 19:48:03 GMT
Meghan Markle and a heart connection
She attended the Immaculate Heart High School in Los Angeles.
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Post by UnseenI on Dec 8, 2017 19:49:07 GMT
Princess Diana: Queen of People’s Hearts
The statement from 1995 that started it all:
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Post by UnseenI on Dec 8, 2017 19:59:11 GMT
Queen of Hearts playing card
“A British street artist has created a moving tribute to commemorate the 20th anniversary of Princess Diana's death. London-based street artist Pegasus painted a playing card-style portrait of Princess Diana alongside the words, "Queen of people's hearts.The artwork adorns a wall at St. Giles Hotel in London, close to Centrepoint, a homeless charity of which the princess was a patron. The artist told Mashable he chose to commemorate the princess ‘who was shockingly taken far too soon in 1997 because she meant a lot to me.'” mashable.com/2017/08/31/princess-diana-pegasus-tribute/#35GUGt53AiqxThe Queen of Hearts on the playing cards is said to be based on Elizabeth of York, niece of Richard III and the only woman to be a daughter, sister, niece, wife and mother to English kings. All the English and British monarchs from her son Henry VIII onwards are her descendants.
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Post by Avacyn on Dec 9, 2017 0:21:12 GMT
Knowing what we know now about what goes on, it all sounds very sinister. It is Meghan's father's alleged lottery win that interests me. I wonder whether it really was some kind of payment. Sorry... but lottery win? I'm in the dark on that detail, I'm afraid.
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Post by Avacyn on Dec 9, 2017 0:40:08 GMT
Queen of Hearts playing card
“A British street artist has created a moving tribute to commemorate the 20th anniversary of Princess Diana's death. London-based street artist Pegasus painted a playing card-style portrait of Princess Diana alongside the words, "Queen of people's hearts.The artwork adorns a wall at St. Giles Hotel in London, close to Centrepoint, a homeless charity of which the princess was a patron. The artist told Mashable he chose to commemorate the princess ‘who was shockingly taken far too soon in 1997 because she meant a lot to me.'” mashable.com/2017/08/31/princess-diana-pegasus-tribute/#35GUGt53AiqxThe Queen of Hearts on the playing cards is said to be based on Elizabeth of York, niece of Richard III and the only woman to be a daughter, sister, niece, wife and mother to English kings. All the English and British monarchs from her son Henry VIII onwards are her descendants. I took a closer look at Elizabeth of York, and I was right - she was the wife of Henry Tudor. She was also Illegitimate. Her father, Edward IV, was the result of an affair. So, it makes invalid the whole Tudor dynasty, as a point of interest. Elizabeth II has a direct ancestral link to Henry Tudor, through one of his daughters. So... looking a bit further into things, it looks like a direct lineage to Edward III would be a prized thing. Makes you wonder what is really going on...
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Post by UnseenI on Dec 9, 2017 8:13:19 GMT
The lottery win that funded Meghan’s education and training
"Sorry... but lottery win? I'm in the dark on that detail, I'm afraid." Avacyn I wonder whether this is true, or just a cover story: “She may have won the heart of a prince, but if Meghan Markle does tie the knot with Harry, as expected, it would just be the latest – if most substantial – stroke of good fortune in an extraordinary life. Today, her half-brother Tom gave The Mail on Sunday an uniquely personal insight into his sister's background – and revealed for the first time how her incredible ascent was made possible by an unlikely twist of fate: a lottery win. He told how their father, also called Tom, scooped $750,000 (around £565,000) in a lottery when Meghan was nine – a secret windfall that helped her to pursue dreams of fame and stardom with the 'laser focus' that has taken her to the top. 'If Meg marries Harry she'll have won the lottery of life but dad winning the lottery helped us all,' said Tom Jnr, 51. 'That money allowed Meg to go to the best schools and get the best training. Meg is someone who has always had laser focus. She knows what she wants and she doesn't stop until she gets it. She was always the family's princess but now she's going to be a real princess and I couldn't be more proud.'” www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5096335/Meghan-Markle-s-brother-lottery-win-set-stardom.htmlThis is all we know about it so far, just her brother's story. I am not so sure that he is telling the truth. £565,000?
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Post by UnseenI on Dec 9, 2017 8:26:24 GMT
More references to Princess Diana's heart
I am not sure where all this is going, but it seems worth highlighting. Let's not forget her friend Hasnat Khan the heart surgeon, and that her heart was damaged in the fatal car crash. Hearts have coronary arteries too. That wording on the magazine cover could be taken in more than one way. Wasn’t she embalmed?
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Post by UnseenI on Dec 9, 2017 19:25:32 GMT
Madonna and angel connection
The Immaculate Heart, the name of Meghan Markle's high school, is a name that is given to many Catholic institutions. It refers to Mary, the Madonna. A comment from a member of the old forum: “It is curious how Diana is being built up into the ultimate Madonna...” And those white wings get everywhere:
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Post by Lavendel on Dec 10, 2017 17:37:49 GMT
Nanny Maria and George first prince of the new roman empire
I was thinking William and little George are both Louis in their names. These are roman Catholic names. The Queen visited the Vatican. After like many years and took audience with the Pope. This could mean she has bowed to the church. She wore black. However recently Charles visited the Pope and vamila wore white which is only worn by roman Catholic princess when they have audience with the Pope. Look at charlene of Monaco. So it could mean Little George is the first prince born after the Queen reverted to the church. The Pope sent George a special gift when he was born. So the Spanish Catholic nanny maybe teaching him Catholic ways. She could be a nun whose devotion is to the church and her mission is to take care of the roman Catholic prince. Notice when bill got married there were too Catholic nuns seated at the front. So this may have been the first roman Catholic wedding of a England prince after the Queen visited Rome and recognised the new roman empire
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