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Post by UnseenI on Oct 11, 2018 6:48:07 GMT
transformer has recently mentioned the sinister organisation Tavistock in the Sussex thread. I posted about Tavistock in many contexts on the old CC Forum. I want to republish some of the material here. It seems best to have a special thread for all the references. First, some clarification - it was necessary for the old place: For people who have little interest in psychology and social engineering – and never look at sites such as this – the Devon town could well be the first association for ‘Tavistock’. However, for many of us, ‘Tavistock’ primarily means The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations – or perhaps the Tavistock Clinic - and that is what is meant in the articles that say someone spent some time there. The Institute has some sinister associations: the Jimmy Savile thread on the DI forum alone has 14 pages of references; when articles say that someone worked for Tavistock, the implication is that they may have been involved with mind-control experiments and mass brain-washing. Tavistock Place and Tavistock Square are in Bloomsbury, the area that is home to the British Museum and dominated by University College London. The Tavistock Institute split off from the Tavistock Clinic, which was founded in 1920 and located in Tavistock Square at the time. Both organisations have since moved elsewhere: one to Tabernacle Street and one to the Swiss Cottage area.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 11, 2018 6:49:39 GMT
The Tavistock Square sacrifice
There was a disaster, referred to as a sacrifice by some people, on July 7th 2005: “The blast tore through a double-decker bus at the junction of Tavistock Square and Upper Woburn place. Thirteen people died in the explosion. One eyewitness said: ‘It was a massive explosion and there were papers and half a bus flying through the air’. The explosion happened outside the British Medical Association and doctors rushed from the building to perform triage and emergency care to those injured. The bus was a number 30, travelling from Marble Arch to Hackney. It was following a diversion from its normal route. Police said the device could have been placed on a seat or the floor. They later established that it was detonated by suicide bomber Hasib Hussain.” news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/uk/05/london_blasts/html/tavistock.stm Apparently Tavistock House, former home of the Tavistock Clinic and now home to the British Medical Association, was splattered with blood, which gave rise to the idea of a sacrifice.  
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Post by aletheia on Nov 25, 2018 22:03:17 GMT
When I think of Tavistock, I tend to think of the stannary town in Devon. A "stannary town" is a town, especially known for the mining of tin, which was given a special status under this condition. The parliamentary seat of Tavistock – which returned two members to the Commons as early as the reign of Edward III (dating from 1330 until 1974, when many seats were abolished/merged/split) – had long been controlled by the Russell family and they had a special interest in the town. A famous Russell, William Russell (1616–1700) had been M.P. for Tavistock in the Short Parliament and the Long Parliament. His constituency partner, the even more famous John Pym (1584–1643), was one of the "Five Members" who attempted to arrest King Charles in 1642. William Russell succeeded to his father's earldom of Bedford at a young age and had a long record of public service stretching until the time of the Glorious Revolution of '88. He became the first duke of Bedford in 1694 and from his line most of the well known and distinguished Russells (including the philosopher Bertrand Russell) come. The Russells have long been at the forefront in influencing the country - especially when considered with the nobility on the side of Whig ideology and Protestant ideals during the 17th and 18th centuries. With Bertrand Russell (1872–1970) there is a connexion to the Fabians as well as most of the liberal causes of the 20th century. The third son of the Sixth Duke of Bedford was Lord John Russell who was a Liberal prime minister on two occasions (1846–1852; 1865–66). Bertrand Russell was the grandson of Lord John Russell or the First Earl Russell. The Russell family has ancestral links to the Scottish armigerous clan Clan Russell whose motto was Virtus sine macula "Virtue without a stain". The family crest (incl. in picture) depicts a set of scales representing justice which ties in symbolically with some of the notable members' dedication to social causes. There also appears to be some orange in the crest as well as a cross-pattée which bears resemblance to the Iron Cross. As a side note, the Scottish psychiatrist Dr. R. D. Laing worked at the Tavistock Institute in the Fifties and Sixties. There is a link to Bertrand Russell here also in which Russell agreed to become the President of a "Socratic Club" that Laing founded while studying medicine at Glasgow (found on Wikipedia: R.D. Laing)  |
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 26, 2018 8:21:27 GMT
Russell Square, which is close to Tavistock Square, is of course named after the Earls and Dukes of Bedford.
This has reminded me of some old posts that would be suitable for this forum. As rain is forecast for many days, I might even be able to find the time to locate and post them.
It is good to see some new posts. Sometimes this place goes very quiet and turns into what looks like my second blog, but then it gets going again.
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Post by aletheia on Nov 26, 2018 10:02:47 GMT
Yes, there do seem to be stretches when it gets very quiet. But I think now things have settled down I will be much more active on here.
Bloomsbury is an area I walk around a fair amount. Many of the street names have direct relevance to the Russells (Byng Place, Tavistock Sq., Bedford Way) and other street names to other aristocracy (Grafton, Argyle, &c.).
Several streets named after settlements in Kent (Bidborough St., Sandwich St., Thanet St.) which I think comes from Harry Judd who owned a lot of Kentish land.
The history of street names is rather fascinating but in many cases is completely unknown/uncertain!
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