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Post by UnseenI on Jan 9, 2018 17:26:52 GMT
Young celebrities may seem fortunate and privileged, but it is likely that they are being exploited. They are victims, fresh meat for the system. There may be big trouble up ahead for them. After Avacyn had shown the way, I collected some examples and posted about them on the old forum. I am going to add some of that material to this board. We look for symbolism, the usual images such as hiding one eye, Disney connections and stories that seem suspicious. We look for anything that doesn’t seem right.
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 9, 2018 17:29:25 GMT
Millie Bobby Brown: a major disaster waiting to happen?
I first heard about Millie Bobby Brown from a DM article in December 2016: “The British star in line for £3m a film aged just 12: Millie Bobby Brown to become one of Hollywood's biggest names after her parents moved to LA and almost went BANKRUPT to support her • She got her big break starring in Netflix’s hit series Stranger Things • The young actress had to shave her head to take on the role of Eleven • She has now been tipped as Teen Vogue’s ‘Breakout Star of 2016’ • Comparisons to Harry Potter actress Emma Watson have already been made Stranger Things, a nostalgic, sci-fi drama based around a boy who mysteriously disappears, had 8.2 million viewers in the first 16 days since its release in July - making it more popular than Kevin Spacey’s House of Cards. In it, Miss Brown plays Eleven, a telekinetic runaway from a sinister government agency.” Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4011636/The-British-star-line-3million-film-aged-just-12-Millie-Bobby-Brown-tipped-one-biggest-names-Hollywood.html#ixzz4SEKi31eB She looks much older than 12 to me:
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 10, 2018 7:07:08 GMT
Millie Bobby Brown's background story
The DM has a long article about her family and their many changes of residence and profession. One particular location stands out: “When Millie was four, the estate agents for which Robert worked (in Spain) went bust and the family moved to Bournemouth. Her father recalls that she was obsessed with musicals. ‘She’d belt out a tune. She was performing from day one.’ When Millie was eight, the family moved to Orlando, Florida, to set up a teeth- whitening business. When Millie was being bothersome one day, her father suggested acting lessons. She started spending four hours every weekend at stage school, where an agent decided she was a ‘natural’, urging her to move to LA for a chance of success. The parents of child actors wanting to make it in Hollywood often suffer, and the Browns’ finances became so stretched that Millie’s British-born manager, Melanie Greene, had to lend them money. ‘There were times we didn’t know if we could afford food or pay rent,’ says Millie. ‘It was very hard. There were lots of tears.’ …Millie won small parts in TV shows such as Grey’s Anatomy. Still, a breakthrough role eluded her. As work dried up, Millie said she felt ‘devastated’. In summer 2015, the money ran out and the Browns returned to Dorset, so penniless they had to move in with Millie’s aunt. When a British casting agent told her she was ‘too mature’, Millie burst into tears. That same day, she auditioned for Stranger Things in London. Her already raw emotions helped enormously, she believes, when she was asked to cry as part of the audition.“ Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4250624/Millie-Bobby-Brown-Stranger-Things-BANKRUPT-moving-LA.html#ixzz4aisEov7q This all sounds strange and rather sinister to me. I get the impression that the parents were desperate for her to become an actress. Living up to their expectations must be a heavy load for her to carry. And why on earth Orlando of all places? The parents might have decided to jump on the cosmetic procedures bandwagon, but why go to Orlando to do it? Wouldn't London have been better? Universal Studios are in Orlando, but at the time they didn't know that Millie would show natural acting talent. Their manager lent them money? How often does that happen? A natural for an American agent but too mature for a British one? She looks really old in this 2016 picture, taken with 29-year-old Emilia Clarke at a BAFTA tea party:
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 10, 2018 7:11:45 GMT
Millie Bobby Brown at Comicon 2017 Triangles/pyramids, black suns... She is still only 13 years old here.
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 10, 2018 19:58:21 GMT
Millie Bobby Brown is a football supporter
“While millions of people around the world are tuning in to hit show 'Stranger Things', one of its stars – Millie Bobby Brown – is staying up until the early hours to watch Liverpool FC. So, why do you support Liverpool? When I was younger, my dad got me a whole Liverpool kit. My brother is a massive fan and it’s kind of like a legacy. I didn’t really have a choice! Now I watch them and I love Liverpool. I watch the games. My brother is 19 and is the biggest fan, he supports obsessively!” www.liverpoolfc.com/news/announcements/237366-stranger-things-star-why-i-love-liverpool-fcMillie plays the character Eleven in Stranger Things. You could say that there are two number 11s in her name. 'Eleven' can refer to the two pillars of the Temple - or the Twin Towers.
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Post by Avacyn on Jan 10, 2018 23:42:39 GMT
Millie Bobby Brown at Comicon 2017 Triangles/pyramids, black suns... She is still only 13 years old here. Wow, oh wow. They have their talons into her, don't they? Triangles in her hair... that's like cat ears. Beta Kitten programming. You have them made of flowers... roses, perhaps? You have triangle, and hints of purple in her clothes. Could the squares be a Cube reference, I wonder? But look at the microphone! It's Comic Con... for Emerald City. So, she's undergone OZ programming, likely when she was living in Florida for a time. The series she's in got my attention at the 2017 Golden Globes award ceremony. Here is a 2:17 clip, which shows their acceptance speech. Winona Rider seems to be having an utter breakdown. It was what got me to start taking a deeper interest in the series, because it clearly has more going on there. I've yet to see it, but I suspect it has similarities to Dark Angel and Donnie Darko.
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Post by Avacyn on Jan 10, 2018 23:45:04 GMT
Millie Bobby Brown is a football supporter
“While millions of people around the world are tuning in to hit show 'Stranger Things', one of its stars – Millie Bobby Brown – is staying up until the early hours to watch Liverpool FC. So, why do you support Liverpool? When I was younger, my dad got me a whole Liverpool kit. My brother is a massive fan and it’s kind of like a legacy. I didn’t really have a choice! Now I watch them and I love Liverpool. I watch the games. My brother is 19 and is the biggest fan, he supports obsessively!” www.liverpoolfc.com/news/announcements/237366-stranger-things-star-why-i-love-liverpool-fcMillie plays the character Eleven in Stranger Things. You could say that there are two number 11s in her name. 'Eleven' can refer to the two pillars of the Temple - or the Twin Towers. There are lions at the bottom of the numbers... There is a lot of symbolism around her, and it all seems to be much more esoteric. It's like she's some sort of priestess, as insane as it sounds. Deeply weird, and unsettling.
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Post by Avacyn on Jan 10, 2018 23:51:46 GMT
Young celebrities may seem fortunate and privileged, but it is likely that they are being exploited. They are victims, fresh meat for the system. There may be big trouble up ahead for them. After Avacyn had shown the way, I collected some examples and posted about them on the old forum. I am going to add some of that material to this board. We look for symbolism, the usual images such as hiding one eye, Disney connections and stories that seem suspicious. We look for anything that doesn’t seem right. Er, thanks. Not sure what I did to show the way, but I'm glad I've been useful. As an aside, I'm very suspicious about how people can suddenly just pop into the limelight, and be a sudden hit. I have begun to formulate a theory that it is all carefully managed. When you dig deeper, you see evidence of manipulation and programming. I suspect that there are many "plants," and some are activated in certain ways, should a need require to be met.
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 11, 2018 7:08:49 GMT
You showed me what sort of people were of interest and what to look for. I just followed your lead.
I agree that some people seem to be fast-tracked. They come from nowhere and suddenly are everywhere.
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 11, 2018 7:10:23 GMT
More about Millie Bobby Brown and the move to Orlando
I know that when some people want to make money, they try to jump on a bandwagon. They decide to get in on the next big thing: tanning booths, botox injections and … tooth whitening for example. I also know that Bournemouth is not exactly the fun capital of the galaxy! It is great for a day trip, but is not heavily populated. But why not go to London, New York, Las Vegas, Los Angeles ...? Millie’s parents could even have set up shop in Brighton! I understand that Orlando will attract many people who want to look their best for Disney and the other attractions, but still think it odd that Millie' parents chose that location. Were they really doing it for the cosmetic teeth procedures, or was it a cover for something else? They didn't know at that point that their daughter was – or would be seen as - very talented. “Born in Marbella, Spain to British parents, Brown grew up first there, then in England and for six months in Orlando (“we moved [there] just for fun”). It was in Florida where she asked her dad for $50 to attend an acting school; when an agent insisted she go to Los Angeles, her father packed up the family, including her younger sister, older brother and English mastiff, and drove cross-country.“ www.wmagazine.com/story/like-eleven-millie-bobby-brown-can-be-very-badassThey moved to Orlando just for fun? Another picture of Millie aged 13:
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Post by truthseeker on Jan 11, 2018 14:08:44 GMT
As an aside, I'm very suspicious about how people can suddenly just pop into the limelight, and be a sudden hit. I have begun to formulate a theory that it is all carefully managed. When you dig deeper, you see evidence of manipulation and programming. I suspect that there are many "plants," and some are activated in certain ways, should a need require to be met. This sounds to me like it could be true but I wonder if it is indeed true in the case of Millie. If Millie was used for another purpose than being a good actress what would be her purpose? Cui bono? What if Millie is simply a person in which many people see a lot of talent and whose road to stardom was simply destiny? I haven't seen Stranger Things yet either. Mostly because it is only available on Netflix and I have been having a very bad gut feeling about Netflix for quite some time. My gut feeling could be wrong though.
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 11, 2018 17:12:01 GMT
“What if Millie is simply a person in which many people see a lot of talent and whose road to stardom was simply destiny?” A good question that deserves a good answer truthseeker. It is good practice to look at the case against our allegations. You could well be correct However, we have learned to listen to our gut feelings when they tell us that something isn’t right. We have also learned to look for certain signs and images. I am not the best person to explain what we suspect is going on but I can give it a go. I think that people do see a lot of talent in some would-be singers, actors etc. but not always what we mean by talent! These wannabees are exploitable. They may be useful for selling products and pushing PC and SJW views, They may be easy to manipulate; they may dissociate easily. They may be used as pied pipers who lure impressionable young people into adopting Hollywood Values. I will try to post more information to support the case that something isn’t right here. There are several things about Millie Bobby Brown’s story that remind me of Meghan Markle and her rise to fame, not to mention the alleged lottery win.
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 11, 2018 17:16:40 GMT
Millie gets talent spotted
"She moved to Orlando, Florida in 2011 where she enrolled in Saturday acting classes as a hobby. It was at these classes that Millie was spotted by a top Hollywood talent scout, who allegedly informed Millie's parents that their daughter possessed 'instincts you cannot teach'. She advised Millie's parents that Millie could "mix it with the best kids in Hollywood. “ After moving to Los Angeles, Millie was offered representation by every agent that met her. After only three months in Hollywood she won the role of young Alice in ABC’s Once Upon A Time In Wonderland. In November 2013, after just one self-taped audition, and without meeting the producers/directors, Millie was offered the role of Madison O'Donnell in BBC America's show, "Intruders." Read more at www.instyle.co.uk/celebrity/news/millie-bobby-brown#6fvmreE51dARI4wi.99www.imdb.com/name/nm5611121/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_smWhen I first read all this, although I had no direct experience of the acting world I was very suspicious. I wondered how often this sort of thing happens. I thought that ambitious, pushy parents would need to besiege the agents. I thought that it was only unscrupulous people with no real power or connections who raised parents' hopes - in return for fees. It all seems back to front. As for Alice in Wonderland, why are we not surprised? Emma Watson, Peaches Geldof and many more have dressed up as Alice.
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 12, 2018 8:12:28 GMT
More ideas about Millie Bobby Brown
We were fortunate to have someone with experience of the acting world on the old forum. She made some useful contributions and confirmed my suspicions by saying that agents do not normally advance money. I remembered reading in Noel Coward's autobiography that 'society girls' (or their fathers!) would pay to get into productions. She mentioned acting schools taking on rich but not necessarily talented pupils. There must be innumerable attractive and talented would-be actors. Why invest in Millie? This poster may have hit on the answer when she said, “ I've noticed that they like them to be boyish. “ “She's experienced a meteoric rise to fame thanks to hit TV show Stranger Things. But actress Millie Bobby Brown, 12, confessed she is so frequently mistaken for a boy because of her short hairdo that she has created a male alter-ego called John. The star joked about the pitfalls of shaving her hair off to play the mysterious Eleven in the Netflix sci-fi series during an appearance on the Jonathan Ross Show.” Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3803271/Stranger-Things-star-Millie-Bobby-Brown-12-gets-mistaken-boy.html#ixzz53toWMQmR Maybe there is a clue to some agenda there, perhaps one also involving Maisie Williams...
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 12, 2018 8:15:57 GMT
Millie Bobby Brown was exhausted
From March 2017: “The 13-year-old has been working incredibly hard this year. And on Friday, Stranger Things star Millie Bobby Brown had to admit that it was all too much. The apologetic teenager took to Instagram on Friday to post a video message to her 3.2 million followers telling them she was pulling out of Collective Con on Saturday in Jacksonville, Florida, because 'I have to rest.' She recently signed with major modeling agency IMG and is the new face of Calvin Klein, sitting in the front row of the designer's show during New York's Fashion Week last month.” Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4350772/Millie-Bobby-Brown-apologizes-pulling-event.html#ixzz4cXzKdgzC She looks and sounds dreadful in the video that picture comes from. IMG modelling? The new face of Calvin Klein at her age? Sounds sinister. I bet that her parents are trying to get as much mileage as possible out of her and it is all becoming too much. The exploiters should take better care of their cash cow. With over 3 million followers, she could be used to be a big influence on young people.
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Post by truthseeker on Jan 12, 2018 12:58:16 GMT
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 13, 2018 7:07:50 GMT
Millie Bobby Brown and Enola Holmes truthseeker I had not seen this news. At first I could hardly believe it. I have read many books inspired by the Sherlock Holmes stories, some excellent, some not bad and some awful. The Enola Holmes stories are better than nothing, but in my opinion are not very good. The covers are the best thing about them! They hope that casting MBB as Enola will make the films a success; I think they are very wrong. I think that she is unsuitable in every possible way. Just for starters, Enola is very tall and disguises herself as an adult, and although MBB’s face looks old she is small and thin. It will be very unconvincing. What a coincidence that the news should break two days after MBB was first mentioned on here. I very much wonder who will play Sherlock Holmes.
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 13, 2018 19:16:01 GMT
Millie Bobby Brown and Enola Holmes again truthseeker my mind is full of pigs and rabbits, and underneath that is the uncomfortable feeling that I have been neglecting the royal family and Sol Invictus threads! It has taken a while for the news about the film to sink in. I am really glad that you posted about it, as who knows if and when I would have found it for myself. The more I think about it, the more unlikely to be a success it seems. Unlike the Harry Potter series, the Enola Holmes books are not long, ‘heavy’ or complex enough to be made into films. It is difficult to think of someone more unsuitable than MBB for the role of Sherlock Holmes’s sister - Danielle Bregoli maybe! I wonder why they mentioned MBB at such an early stage, before they have found actors for Sherlock and the other parts. I can’t see people like Benedict Cumberbatch wanting to be associated with this film. I wonder whether it will ever get made.
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 13, 2018 19:18:21 GMT
Maddie Ziegler: another disaster waiting to happen?
There is more to come about Millie Bobby Brown, but it is time to introduce someone else, someone with similar elements in her life. Maddie Ziegler was a dancer, actress, model, author and businesswoman at the age of 14! From October 2016: “She might be only 14, but Maddie Ziegler has apparently already lived enough to warrant her very own memoir. The Dance Moms star who went on to become the muse of Sia, one the world's biggest pop stars, has revealed the cover photo and release date for her upcoming autobiography, The Maddie Diaries. When she first revealed that she was writing the memoir back in August, Maddie told People: 'I’m honored to be given the chance to write about my journey. 'My hope is to inspire others to always keep dreaming and push through the hardships because it’s so worth it to find something you are truly passionate about in life. Always be brave enough to live out your dreams.' The news came just a month after before she revealed the launch of her very own clothing line for girls and juniors.“ Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3852030/Dancer-reality-star-author-Maddie-Ziegler-14-unveils-cover-upcoming-MEMOIR.html#ixzz4SGiHpCF1 At this rate, she will be a burnt out wreck and past it by the age of 25. Oh, and she must add UN Ambassador to the list!
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 14, 2018 8:28:49 GMT
Maddie Ziegler and Millie Bobby Brown again
The two girls are friends; they are starting a group together. Here they are drinking butterbeer at the Wizarding World of Harry Potter: Millie making a very familiar sign:
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 15, 2018 9:35:46 GMT
Mackenzie Zeigler
Maddie Ziegler has a younger sister called Mackenzie. Here she is wearing dresses with black suns and sunflowers: Mackenzie makes a familiar sign:
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 15, 2018 9:37:54 GMT
Birds of a feather...
Chloe Grace Moretz , Winona Ryder and Millie Bobby Brown:
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 15, 2018 9:40:19 GMT
Millie Bobby Brown’s father demanded huge fees from agents
In this article from October 2016, Robert Brown is alleged to have started a bidding war: “Millie Bobby Brown's father has come under fire for reportedly demanding an upfront fee of $100,000 from any agent who wants to represent his daughter. The 12-year-old break-out star of Stranger Things has been in huge demand since the Netflix series went stratospheric following its July release. According to The Hollywood Reporter, five separate agencies have confirmed Robert Brown has demanded a 'sizable cash payment' for the privilege of signing the young actress, with two confirming they had been asked for $100,000. “ Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3822569/Millie-Bobby-Brown-s-father-fire-demanding-100-000-agents-represent-Stranger-Things-star.html#ixzz4cmpnd3Ba She was only 12 at the time. Why did her father think that she was worth so much?
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Post by truthseeker on Jan 15, 2018 10:34:42 GMT
She was only 12 at the time. Why did her father think that she was worth so much? Why is she worth so much? What do other people see in her that we can't?
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 15, 2018 13:03:21 GMT
Millie Bobby Brown and the talent spotters
It seems that people have only to set eyes on MBB to recognise enormous talent and potential and immediately sign her up. As mentioned earlier, the story is that she immediately impressed top talent scouts and her father got agencies to hold a bidding war for her. There is another example of someone being immediately overwhelmed by her talent in a June 2017 interview with Millie Bobby Brown: “What was the first audition you remember getting? It was a Publix commercial. I went in there and I had no idea what I was doing. I just was like okay, "Hi my name is…" I was really boring. And then I had to hold cupcakes and say like, "Mom can I please have some chocolate chip cupcakes," or something like that. And the guy actually grabbed my face, and then grabbed my hand and pulled me out of the audition and then said, "Where is your father?" "Where is your mother?" And started looking at all my parents, all the parents and my dad was like, "Uh, I'm her dad." He was like, "She's got the job, she's got the job." And I was like, "Okay, okay." And like immediately I got the job. I was immediately happy and I was just very content and blessed. Like immediately I knew that I was just born to do this.”” Like, like, like…. how I hate this four-letter word! There is much more of the same in her replies to more interview questions: www.wmagazine.com/story/millie-bobby-brown-stranger-things-godzillaThis seems very unlikely. I can just about accept that she was a good choice for Stranger Things, but advertising cupcakes? Assuming that the story is true, why on earth would someone behave like that? Surely it is not advisable to show how much you want to cast someone, as their price may go up. It is easier to manipulate people when they are lacking in confidence and uncertain about their talent. Born to sell cupcakes? Born to get advertising jobs? This story is bizarre.
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 15, 2018 13:04:31 GMT
“Why is she worth so much? What do other people see in her that we can't?” truthseeker I don’t understand it either. Avacyn said that MBB was good in Stranger Things, which I have never seen. I suppose that success sometimes starts a feeding frenzy. I am sure that agents and professional talent spotters know what they are looking for and know it when they see it, but that does not explain everything. Surely it is mainly families, well-meaning friends and unscrupulous agencies who want money to take someone onto their books who tell someone they are very talented. And yet someone said much the same to Meghan Markle - I posted about that somewhere on here. These young girls have enormous influence - Danielle Bregoli’s Instagram has 12.1 million followers for example, and MBB has 12.2 million. Young women will buy things they wear and recommend. Maybe someone has decided to use MBB for something sinister. Or maybe it is entirely a matter of money, and they think that anything and everything she appears in will be a huge success.
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 15, 2018 19:32:58 GMT
Three girls named Madison
Maddie Ziegler’s full first name is Madison.
Millie Bobby Brown plays a girl called Madison Russell in the forthcoming film Godzilla: King of the Monsters.
She has also played a 9-year old girl called Madison O’Donnell in the paranormal TV series The Intruders. A serial killer called Marcus Fox comes back to life by possessing her body.
What’s in a name?
By coincidence, Russell means red and foxes are red.
The name Madison suddenly became popular with girls in the 1990s. It was a surname of English origin. It has two possible sources, one connected with Maud and the other as a variant of Matthewson.
Matthew means Gift of Yahweh, or God. I have posted elsewhere about similar meanings for Meghan Markle’s mother Doria and character Rachel Zane.
Are Millie and Meghan God’s gift to exploiters?
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Post by UnseenI on Jan 16, 2018 7:39:17 GMT
Savy Monroe: child model
“Savy Monroe only recently celebrated her seventh birthday but already she has done more than some aspiring models might hope to achieve in their entire career. The Californian, whose full name is Savy Monroe Stenberg, has already starred in a music video for Sia, watched by hundreds of millions online, and featured in campaigns for major fashion brand H&M. In the 18 months that she has been working professionally, Savy has also modeled for Lucky Brand Jeans, Lands' End, Mini Boden, Peek Kids and Maddie Ziegler's brand Maddie Style.” www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4331668/Seven-year-old-girl-appears-Sia-video-H-M-campaign.htmlThere is something disturbing about almost all the pictures of her. She looks miserable in most of them too. I wonder what it was that got her those big name contracts.
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