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Post by UnseenI on Apr 6, 2018 7:26:42 GMT
The move to Wrotham
Peaches and her family moved from London to Wrotham in Kent in October 2013. Another old post: “Also, why did she decide to - with her family - go to Wrotham?” Avacyn the official reason for moving to Kent was to get away from the London party scene (and its associated bad company I assume) and escape all the attention from the tabloids. Peaches had childhood memories of living in Kent, so that was a good reason to go there. It is reasonable to assume that fresh air, greenery and more space were attractions too. She is alleged to have said that London is not a good place to bring up children. Five bedrooms seem a bit excessive though, at least to someone like me - I live in a studio flat. Maybe there would be more privacy in a place like that – or would comings and goings and strangers be more visible in a small village? I wouldn't know about that. Maybe Peaches was on the level with her explanations; maybe they were all just rationalisations and cover stories. There could well be other, more sinister reasons for the move.
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Post by truthseeker on Apr 6, 2018 20:46:08 GMT
I am not sure if there is any meaning to what I am about to post but I noticed that in January 2014 Peaches gave an interview with the Australien television and in the end of the interview I can hear her say "Danke" which is german for "thanks". I wonder why she would do this. Maybe she confused Australia with Austria but I doubt it.
I am not compeltely convinced that Peaches and Thomas's relationship was real and that he was really the father of her babies. In that case they would both need their own bedroom. As children grow older they are often happy about their own bedroom so: One bedroom for Peaches, one for Thomas, and two for the boys that is four. Plus one guest bedroom makes five beedrooms.
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 7, 2018 6:55:35 GMT
I did not expect much new material to be uncovered, but you have found something to look into. I had forgotten the Australia angle.
Today is April 7th; this is the same date, but not the day, she was found dead. She shopped in London on the Saturday morning, then went back home.
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 7, 2018 6:57:13 GMT
Long weekends and the boys
Thomas Cohen told the inquest that he often took the boys to his parents at the weekends, to leave Peaches free to get on with her career. People questioned this; they said that it could not have been normal practice as she never mentioned it on her Instagram, where she reported many small details of her life. A good point, but the answer is that telling people would have made her look bad and hypocritical as she promoted attachment parenting. With hindsight, her weekend postings might have held some clues about this; it is a pity that it all went private soon after her death. Then there is this, from a member of the mothers and babies group in Maidstone that Peaches joined: “Peaches told me how she used to climb into her nanny’s bed at night as a little girl and she still sometimes took the boys up to London to stay with her for a couple of days. “ www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/peaches-geldof-longed-normal-mum-3955900She stayed with the nanny? Was this at Django's Allott's home? Was this where she stayed on the nights of Thursday 3rd and Friday 4th April?
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 7, 2018 18:44:52 GMT
Peaches and the avoidance of responsibility
Peaches’ way of dealing with allegations and accusation was denial, dismissal and glib cover stories. I don’t find any of it convincing. Here is yet another example: “Peaches also defended her reputation against reports that the police and ambulances were called out to her North London home on Tuesday night for a man suffering breathing problems. She said: 'As for the 30-year-old man OD-ing in my house, it's not true and my lawyers are dealing with this. It's about time people stopped thinking the worst of me’… Metropolitan Police said: 'When police arrived, London Ambulance Service had already given medical treatment and the man was taken to hospital.” Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2036134/Peaches-Geldof-blames-psoriasis-causing-marks-arm.html#ixzz3pyQBmVBp People had good reason to think the worst of her.
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 7, 2018 18:45:56 GMT
Another example of avoidance of responsibility
This story speaks for itself. Freddy McConnel died from a drug overdose aged 18 in 2011. It was found he had written in his diary, months before his death, "Peaches is coming over later and I am going to inject for the first time. Perhaps I will die. I hope I don't." Freddy's father James has spoken about both deaths: “Peaches called James the day after his son died, but he was furious that she was preoccupied with ensuring her name wasn't linked with his. 'She was far more concerned about getting into trouble if her father ever found out. At the time I thought she was being a spoilt little brat, but now I realise the poor girl was going through hell and couldn't help herself. Now I just feel desperately sorry for her family.' With hindsight one wonders what would have happened if James had lifted the phone and called Bob Geldof himself. He says that never occurred to him. 'At that time I wasn't sure she was using. I knew that towards the very, very end she paid Freddy to go and buy drugs and he visited her in Kent, but to be honest, by the time Freddy died the last thing I was thinking about was anybody but him.' “ Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2725660/Peaches-begged-hide-drug-use-Bob-The-day-composer-James-McConnel-s-son-died-heroin-overdose-got-desperate-call-Peaches-Geldof.html#ixzz4bb0I0dgy
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 8, 2018 6:27:31 GMT
More about the move to Wrotham
It could be that Peaches not only wanted to get away from the celebrity scene in London, but also wanted to be close to various people and organisations in Kent. The article quoted above says that Freddy McConnel, who died from a drug overdose at the age of 18, visited Peaches in Kent around 2011. This suggests that she stayed there some of the time, perhaps with Bob. The reference to September (2013) here suggests that she was visiting the parenting group in Maidstone before she moved to Wrotham: “Peaches joined the mums group last September, seven months before she died of a massive heroin overdose ...” www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/peaches-geldof-longed-normal-mum-3955900She and Thomas moved to Wrotham in October 2013. According to him she was declared clean in November, after a two-year treatment programme. Maybe they bought a house of their own as she could no longer stay with Bob because of the estrangement.
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 8, 2018 18:31:06 GMT
Who was the friend who was the last person to speak to Peaches?
Assuming that Peaches really did speak to ‘a friend’ on the phone on the Sunday night, who could it have been? And what exactly did they talk about? I think that Fifi Brown is a very good candidate as they had been together very recently. Perhaps there are not so many possibilities as might be expected. It seems that she had realised that many of her friends were just acquaintances, fun loving party people, people who lost interest once she had children. Here is an extract from a piece that she wrote shortly before she died: “However, this new earth-mother me came with an unexpected consequence – I found myself friendless. My five closest friends were understanding and sweet, albeit less present in my life. But many others revealed themselves to be of the fair-weather variety. Once I couldn’t go out, due to the aforementioned little wailers, they didn’t want to know. The idea that I didn’t want a nanny didn’t seem to register, nor that doing night feeds and waking up at 6am doesn’t factor in well with a wine-soaked dinner. Friends expected me to go to them, even when they know getting the Tube with two tinies would be stressful...My real old friends have stuck by me and connect me to my old life (I sometimes forget I’m only 24), treating me to nights out that let me forget about dirty nappies at least for a minute...” www.independent.co.uk/news/people/peaches-geldof-dead-star-describes-perfect-life-in-final-magazine-column-i-had-two-beautiful-babies-9248011.htmlSo maybe it was one of these five, whoever they were. I wonder why no one ever came forward.
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 9, 2018 6:29:53 GMT
The tragic truth behind the wholesome family façade
A DM article from May 2014 reveals the pressure that Peaches was under: “For someone whose early years were so blighted by tragedy and loss, it is perhaps no surprise that Peaches Geldof was -determined to create a picture-perfect home life for herself.... But, as was so often the case with poor Peaches, the carefully crafted image she sold to herself, as much as to the outside world, was in sharp contrast to the sad reality of her troubled existence. Friends of the late 25-year-old TV presenter say that she was not only still fighting an addiction to heroin that, it was revealed this week, played a part in her death, but was also hooked on diet pills. Partly fuelling these dependencies, they say, were the money troubles she was struggling with. She and her musician husband of two years, Tom Cohen, were said to have faced the prospect of having to sell their home to fund their costly lifestyle. Friends say that Peaches had been in and out of rehab for several years - all of which was carefully hidden from the public. Friends say that Peaches recently felt under enormous pressure because of her and her husband’s financial worries. Peaches had found herself as the only breadwinner since Cohen’s band broke up last year. Since then, he’s been essentially unemployed. Friends say Tom, who’ll be 24 at the end of this month, has been trying to get a vintage clothes shop in London off the ground with his older sister, Holly. This meant that sometime TV presenter and magazine columnist Peaches was carrying the burden of providing for her family, regularly travelling into town in a bid to kick-start her own career, having meetings with ¬prospective employers, going to fashion events and generally trying to keep her name in the public eye. But she had found work hard to come by and was attempting to reinvent her public image as an outspoken earth mother. In a sign of how sharply her star had fallen, her final interview was with the little-known Aga Living magazine, run by the cooker company. She regularly left the children with Tom’s parents, Keith, a social worker, and Sue, an artist, usually for three days a week.” Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2619234/Hooked-diet-pills-heroin-obsessed-mothers-death-worried-money-tragic-truth-Paeches-Geldofs-perfect-life.html#ixzz5C9R6myTR
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 10, 2018 18:37:38 GMT
“ in the end of the interview I can hear her say "Danke" which is german for "thanks". “ truthseeker listening to Peaches is so unbearable that after a few seconds I went straight to the end of the video! I thought that she said “Thank you”… |
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 14, 2018 18:03:17 GMT
Peaches and her second dog
Although Peaches’ Twitter was made private shortly after her death, some of her followers still remember what they saw there. A very reliable source has said that Peaches Tweeted about getting another dog. She said that she was thinking of getting a Chow, but decided that a Newfoundland would be better with her children. Bogwot the Newfoundland puppy joined the family early in 2014. There may not be anything unusual about this, but there are some coincidences. Chows have blue-black tongues; the goddess Kali, the destructive mother, sticks her tongue out and is often depicted with blue-black skin. J. M. Barrie, who owned a Newfoundland dog, wanted Nana the protective dog in his play Peter Pan to be a Newfoundland. Nana helps to take care of the children. I wonder whether Peaches was thinking of her nanny and trying to protect her children in some way. At the premiere of the new Peter Pan film in 2003: 
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 15, 2018 6:50:56 GMT
“I am not completely convinced that Peaches and Thomas's relationship was real and that he was really the father of her babies.“ truthseeker we did say on the old forum that she seemed to care about him far more than he cared about her. The boys do not look at all like him. |
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 15, 2018 6:52:09 GMT
Peaches goes through the dog flap
“Peaches has revealed that she once got stuck in the dog flap when trying to sneak back into her house following a night out. The socialite admitted that she was trying to avoid bumping into her father Bob after ignoring her evening curfew. "I tried one night to get through the dog flap at my dad's house when I didn't want to wake him up - I was about 15 and I was sneaking home late," she told Heat. "It was quite big, but I got stuck halfway through and was there for about half an hour, almost crying and freaking out. I got through in the end."” Read more: www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/news/a188363/peaches-geldof-got-stuck-in-dog-flap.html#ixzz3k7tmEiBs I have heard of cat flaps, but never a dog flap before. This story shows that she was a rebellious wild child from an early age. Something about it reminds me of Alice in Wonderland too.
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Post by truthseeker on Apr 15, 2018 8:39:29 GMT
She had (a secret) night out at the age of 15? There aren't many teenagers who do this.
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 15, 2018 18:24:01 GMT
Peaches got into a bad crowd from an early age. There is a lot of information about her early life online but all I can say at the moment is that Bob Geldof's strict regime seems to have backfired!
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 15, 2018 18:25:15 GMT
Peaches and Pixie pretending to be dogs
This picture came from the nanny’s Instagram, with the caption "This was such a typical pose for my two little puppies." 
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 24, 2018 6:20:31 GMT
Metaphysical aspects
truthseeker asked this on the old forum: “So did she get caught up in negative energy?” My reply, which is still relevant: “I have been concentrating on facts & figures and this-world issues in recent posts, but you have reminded me that other aspects exist. I agree that bad energy may be involved. It is all very well for someone to decide to make a fresh start in a new life. You don't get away so easily. There is a price for everything. Unfinished business needs to be dealt with. Who knows what negative energies and entities she picked up from the various cults and rituals and the toxic people she associated with. Poisonous energy could have been sabotaging her life. She may have realised that there is no escape.”
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Post by truthseeker on Apr 26, 2018 6:36:21 GMT
Metaphysical aspects
truthseeker asked this on the old forum: “So did she get caught up in negative energy?” My reply, which is still relevant: “I have been concentrating on facts & figures and this-world issues in recent posts, but you have reminded me that other aspects exist. I agree that bad energy may be involved. It is all very well for someone to decide to make a fresh start in a new life. You don't get away so easily. There is a price for everything. Unfinished business needs to be dealt with. Who knows what negative energies and entities she picked up from the various cults and rituals and the toxic people she associated with. Poisonous energy could have been sabotaging her life. She may have realised that there is no escape.” This would be very sad if this was true. It would mean that a person makes a few mistakes (or was born to parents who made a mistake) and from then on is stuck forever. This is not fair and something I would associate with a cruel god. It takes a lot of luck, experience and intelligence to never make any bad decisions. And what would be the worth of life if everything had a price? What about people who have talents and passions? They would have gotten that without a price and what if somebody told them that they had to sacrifice their soul in order to be able to live their passion? Those people only had two option: Sacrificing their soul or being in excrutiating pain for not living their passion. I wonder who benefits from making people believe that everything has a price because I don't believe them. It were no wonder so many people are suffering in our world when nothing that used to be bad ever turned out good and when every piece of happiness demanded pain as price. |
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Post by truthseeker on Apr 26, 2018 6:43:56 GMT
A video in relation to the "Everything has a price" believe:
"Everything has a cost"
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 27, 2018 6:55:32 GMT
truthseeker this is a complicated topic with many different issues, not all of which are relevant to this thread. I may have given the wrong impression: I do not believe that it is essential to sell your soul before you can achieve anything! There may be no problems if you earn the recognition, fame and fortune etc. that you have. It is a bit like the difference between saving for something and only buying what you can afford, and living on credit cards. In the latter case, sooner or later the day of reckoning will come. Peaches had tried many different ways to get recognition: DJ, singing in a band, acting, modelling, hosting a TV show, ‘journalism’ ... she got a lot of criticism which was probably justified. She was always talking about what she was going to do, writing a children’s book for example, and much of it came to nothing. Perhaps Peaches felt that all avenues were closing and that the day of reckoning was coming.
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Post by truthseeker on Apr 27, 2018 20:06:37 GMT
There may be no problems if you earn the recognition, fame and fortune etc. that you have. It is a bit like the difference between saving for something and only buying what you can afford, and living on credit cards. In the latter case, sooner or later the day of reckoning will come. I am not convinced. Imagine someone was born with a writing talent. In this case said person should use this talent to bless other people with his/her stories. If the talented person does this it might gain a certain amount of fame. But why should that person be in debt for this? All He/she did was using the talent he/she was born with to make other people happy. What if a person does not use his/her talents? Isn't that even worse? A talent corectly used is above all also a blessing to the people who surround the talented person. There might be certain people who make deals with the devil or other shady figueres and then they might get in debt. There might be cases when people promised something or someone to a demon to gain fame but I believe that there are also people who simply gain fame because they are talented and worked hard. If there were a devil and he delighted in seeing people die then he might give something to some people if they promise him a death but that is not how the universe was meant to work if you understand what I mean. |
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Post by truthseeker on Apr 29, 2018 10:38:58 GMT
The movie producer who lets aspiring actors and actresses know that they only get the part if they have sex with him profits from the "Everything has a price" believe because if these aspiring actors and actresses believe that everything has a price and that this were a rule of nature they might think mich easier that they have to pay big prices for big dreams and that these big prices not only include hard work but also having sex with someone they don't want to have sex with.
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 22, 2018 7:04:46 GMT
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Post by Avacyn on Aug 31, 2018 22:16:08 GMT
truthseeker this is a complicated topic with many different issues, not all of which are relevant to this thread. I may have given the wrong impression: I do not believe that it is essential to sell your soul before you can achieve anything! There may be no problems if you earn the recognition, fame and fortune etc. that you have. It is a bit like the difference between saving for something and only buying what you can afford, and living on credit cards. In the latter case, sooner or later the day of reckoning will come. Peaches had tried many different ways to get recognition: DJ, singing in a band, acting, modelling, hosting a TV show, ‘journalism’ ... she got a lot of criticism which was probably justified. She was always talking about what she was going to do, writing a children’s book for example, and much of it came to nothing. Perhaps Peaches felt that all avenues were closing and that the day of reckoning was coming.
Maybe all of the things she tried were fronts for other things? I feel she was less a person, and more a chess piece on someone's board.
Also, you wanted me to save this picture... what had you seen about it?
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Post by UnseenI on Sept 1, 2018 18:40:36 GMT
I need to go back to remind myself about this - maybe it was supposed to be side by side with another pic for comparison?
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Post by Avacyn on Sept 1, 2018 20:59:46 GMT
I think that may have been the case.
I need to see what else I can produce for this thread.
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Post by UnseenI on Sept 4, 2018 7:09:08 GMT
It just isn't possible to keep up with everything. The bees and the Markles have taken over!
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Post by Avacyn on Sept 6, 2018 21:50:52 GMT
Tell me about it... still, need to put something up, to add to the topic. I need to see what is already here...
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Post by UnseenI on Sept 10, 2018 6:34:29 GMT
I have lost the plot here. It is a while since I looked at this thread. I could have sworn that it was much longer. I am probably remembering all the work we did on the CC forum. It seems like 100 years ago!
As for your picture, I think that I was trying to show a likeness in appearance between Thomas Cohen and Kingsley O’Keke. I had some trouble and asked for help.
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Post by UnseenI on Sept 10, 2018 6:37:22 GMT
Paula and Peaches and two dark young men
I have tried to reproduce something I posted on the old CC forum. We noticed a likeness between many of the young men pictured with Peaches and Paula Yates. This is a good example. Peaches is with Thomas Cohen and Paula Yates is with Kingsley O’Keke, addict and convicted thief. She started seeing him 10 months after Michael Hutchence died.   
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