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Post by truthseeker on Mar 23, 2018 19:43:56 GMT
Peaches and various religions
There is a lot of information available about Peaches’ involvement with Scientology, Judaism and the O.T.O. We found some good pictures for the other forums too. I wonder what spirit she did it all in, and what her motives were. Perhaps there was nothing more to it than just copying the interests of whoever she was with at the time. Princess Diana started to learn about heart surgery after meeting Hasnat Khan; Meghan Markle had a International Travelling wedding and has now joined the Church of England in preparation for her next wedding. People like to dabble in religions; they get crazes; they like to follow the in crowd; they want to appear glamorous and important; they want to rebel against mainstream religions... Sometimes celebrities are targeted and lured in so that they will be pied pipers who will recruit others and lead them to destruction. But Peaches said that she felt like something was lacking in her life when she didn't have a faith. Or do you think that could have been a lie?
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 24, 2018 7:15:32 GMT
Peaches did not always tell the truth, but maybe she really was searching for something to fill a void and fix some problems. People like that often look for the wrong thing or in the wrong place.
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 24, 2018 7:17:40 GMT
Peaches' public activities in March and April 2014
After February’s mad social whirl, Peaches’ workload was very light in March and April. I wonder whether there were no more suitable events for her to go to, or maybe there were some but she was not invited or didn’t want to go. March 13th Top Dog TV programme
Peaches and Parper took part for Comic Relief: April 3rd F & F fashion show awards
“Here is the last believed footage of the beautiful star who was found tragically dead at her home in Kent. Posing for photographers on Thursday night at the F&F Fashion Show, Peaches looked her usual glamorous self. Pouting and posing only for a couple of minutes however, the fashionista didn't hang around for long and looked to be almost forcing a smile for the cameras.” www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/469178/VIDEO-Is-this-the-last-footage-of-Peaches-Geldof-Tragic-star-attends-last-public-eventI too think that she looks unhappy in all the pictures of her at this event, including video footage where she is just going through the motions. I can't load it but the video can be seen here: www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/peaches-geldof-at-f-f-fashion-show-at-bfc-courtyard-news-footage/450045788
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 24, 2018 18:13:13 GMT
Peaches’ final photo shoot revisited
The Instagram account the picture originally came from no longer exists, and the DIF is the only place where the picture is referenced now. Here is the picture again, with the NME Awards dress again for comparison: The picture was taken by Andrea Sortner and posted on her Instagram with a comment from the photographer: “andreasortner 11 days ago Just Worked with her! To sad! Cant believe this happend!:-) RIP” The comment is said to have ended with a smiley face. The exact date that the picture was taken is still not known. Could it have been Friday 4th April? The shattered glass was thought by some posters to be symbolic of a shattered mind, an indication that Peaches was a programmed multiple. I can’t see anything myself, but some saw evil faces in the glass mirrors.
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 25, 2018 6:26:04 GMT
The girls’ night out picture revisited
This picture is in the timeline, where it was attributed to Friday April 4th. Here is what I said about it on the CC forum: It was seeing pictures of Kate Middleton that looked odd and another poster said were photoshopped that made me realise that there was something weird about Peaches' torso. Two pictures for comparison: Captions from the DM: "Still wild: One of the last pictures Peaches Geldof posted on Twitter was during a girls night out at London's Hakkasan restaurant last week. She looked extremely slender as she sipped a cocktail" "In this picture, from Saturday April 5, Peaches enjoys a drink with friends" So who took the girls' night out picture, and when? Who made the changes, and when and why? It may have been posted on Twitter on April 5th but that does not necessarily mean it was taken on that day – wasn't she at home that weekend? Fifi Brown is on the right. She has been friends with Peaches since 2006. They have been to many fashion and music events together. She is not mentioned at all in the Peaches thread on the DIF.
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 25, 2018 6:35:07 GMT
Peaches Geldof and Kate Middleton
The Kate Middleton posts in the CC forum affected the way I looked at Peaches’ case. I saw a few similarities. Looking at pictures of Kate Middleton in the hope of finding the point at which she changed from looking healthy and happy with a rounded face and normal arms to someone extremely thin who often looked miserable, hard, bitter and much older gave me the idea of doing something similar for Peaches. For Kate, the deterioration appears to have set in after her marriage in 2011; for Peaches, it looks to have also started some time in 2011, which was the year when she first met Thomas Cohen. Her extreme thinness caused a lot of comment at the time. The emaciation, the criticism, the speculation about the cause and Peaches’cover stories continued right up until her death. Maybe we need to look into all this more closely. Another similarity is the difference between what some people said and others saw. For example, when the DM reported in an article that Kate was stunning, glowing and radiant, people responded with comments saying that her skin was awful, she looked unhappy and she was emaciated. This last is exactly what I have seen in comments in articles about Peaches. There are always ’sugars’ and paid PR people who write gushing tributes, but some people can see for themselves that all is not well. I don’t agree that Peaches looked fit, healthy, and glowing up to the end of March as some people say she did, except perhaps superficially: unlike Kate, she had good makeup techniques and knew how to pose professionally and put on a good show. As with Kate, many commenters disagreed with the flattering remarks, and selfies taken at home tell a different story too:
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Post by Avacyn on Mar 25, 2018 21:15:34 GMT
So where do we go from here? Avacyn you said in August 2014: “I have never been satisfied with leaving this topic, because it really did feel like unfinished business.” It still does! Sadly, it is unlikely that any new information will emerge, and we will probably never know what really happened. So what should we do now? We have saved our material from the old forums, but some of it does not make much sense without the contributions from other posters, and it would take a very long time to re-add it. It does seem a pity to waste the results of our research and our ideas though. Perhaps the best approach is to just select the best, the most original, material and post a few summaries. I will start with some timelines and comments I created for the CC Forum. I think we should look at it logically. How many times did the details of her death change? And when you look at what was reported, and what was said at the Inquest, does it all follow properly, or is it all inconsistent nonsense? That would be a good way to start, I suspect.
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Post by Avacyn on Mar 25, 2018 21:30:01 GMT
Peaches' final days: Timeline part I - out and about in London
I have taken some information from a very useful article in The Sun as the basis for the reconstruction and analysis of the last few days of Peaches' life. It may well contain lies, inaccuracies and be incomplete and partly contradicted by other sources, but we need to start somewhere. This is the official story and timeline, as given at the inquest. I have added a few comments in brackets where relevant. Thursday 3rd April 2014
Husband Thomas Cohen takes the couple’s two children, Astala, two, and one-year-old Phaedra to stay for the weekend at his parents’ house in south east London. (Staying with his parents was said to be a normal occurrence, so that they could both concentrate on their careers. Peaches went to the F & F Fashion Awards at Somerset House in the evening. This was her final public appearance. There is a not very convincing story that Thomas and Peaches had an argument on the train to London. It is likely that they travelled up together though; this would have been the last time that he saw her alive.) Peaches at the F & F Fashion Awards on the evening of Thursday 3rd: Friday 4th April – evening
Peaches goes out for a meal in London during the evening with two close friends. She and one of the friends then go to the cinema before returning to her friend’s house in Hampstead where Peaches stays overnight. (Presumably this is the girls' night out at Hakkasan, attributed to April 5th by the DM, who published the picture on April 8th. Her companions were identified as Fifi Brown and Kirsty Williams. Who took this bizarre picture, and when? Who photo-shopped it and why? Who released it, and when? Did Peaches stay with Fifi Brown or Kirsty?) The daisy tattoo is Peaches’, but her torso looks odd and her head looks shopped on: Saturday 5th April – morning/early afternoon
Peaches goes shopping in London before returning to Kent by train, arriving at Sevenoaks station at 1.13 pm. She takes a taxi back to her home. (Shopping trip? She was not the person to do things on her own. Did she go shopping with Fifi Brown?) www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/996348/peaches-geldofs-death-a-timeline/Some questions arising from the above timeline: Did Peaches go back to Kent after the Awards on Thursday night, or did she stay overnight with someone as in the official story? What did she do all day Friday, and where? Who fed and walked the two dogs between Thursday afternoon and Saturday afternoon, when they were all officially in London? In addition, you have to ask: why did he not take the children with him, as they were going to his parents? Did she then go with them alone to his parents house? The picture is clearly a photoshop. The glass has been added to her hand, her face is flat. It's been added on. The back looks weird, too. The posture is all wrong. Also, the body seems strangely flat, deflated. The lighting for "Peaches" is different to the other two; more difficult to see in black and white, but it is there. And why only one picture, and in black and white? She would have posted up some more, surely! She posted everything else about her life; why not that evening? Also, why did she come back home by Sevenoaks, and then by taxi?!?! She could have gone by Borough Green & Wrotham, and then taken a taxi - much nearer! And yes, she could have taken a taxi, too: www.yelp.com/biz/borough-green-taxi-service-sevenoaks?adjust_creative=dWJMtmYxpd5N5yoyzSuhtA&utm_campaign=yelp_api&utm_medium=api_v2_business&utm_source=dWJMtmYxpd5N5yoyzSuhtASo, the mystery thickens.
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 26, 2018 6:42:12 GMT
It is all rather overwhelming.
I prefer to use pictures that were widely published where possible. The dates are usually correct and they are less likely to vanish. The DM is a good source, and the Hakkasan picture came from there. I have not seen any comments about obvious photoshopping, which seems strange.
Peaches did enhance many of the pictures she posted.
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 27, 2018 7:05:26 GMT
Peaches’ weight in 2011
I think that Peaches looked much better before she lost a lot of weight. She looked healthy and blooming. A reminder of the old Peaches, in 2010 with Eli Roth: Another picture from London Fashion Week in September 2011: So when did the dramatic weight loss start? The earliest picture I could find of the new Peaches was from the Net-a-Porter event on July 15th 2011: This article suggests that it started in March: “When Peaches Geldof showed off a svelte new look recently, we barely recognised her. Famous for her hedonistic lifestyle, the socialite stepped out at Net-a-Porter’s Dolce & Gabbana party
at London’s Westfield shopping centre in a sparkly gown that clung to her slim figure. Peaches, 22, is thought to have
shed 1½st since March, dropping from 10st to 8½st. But the 5ft 7in star has defended her weight loss, insisting she’s still eating sensibly.” Read more at www.celebsnow.co.uk/celebrity-news/peaches-geldof-loses-weight-for-love-110213#5ajgZ6OKrSHKbDVE.99So what happened? There may be a clue in this sequence of events: Peaches returned to the UK from the US in December 2010. She is said to have started dating Thomas Cohen in December 2010 or January 2011. They became engaged in May or June 2011. Astala was born in April 2012.
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Post by truthseeker on Mar 27, 2018 16:49:13 GMT
Summer 2011... wasn't that the time when Amy Winehouse died? These two incidents probably have nothing to do with each other but it just popped into my head.
I just looked it up: Wikipedia claims that Winehouse died on the 23rd July 2011.
Even though Peaches became thinner she seemed to have gotten a better stylist around the same time. (There are also women who want to be as thin as possible in order to feel as beautiful as possible. I wonder if Peaches was one of them.)
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 27, 2018 18:08:16 GMT
Your hunches are often right!
A lot was happening in 2011: in addition to losing weight, Kate Midddleton got married.
I think I have some material about Peaches and Amy somewhere.
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 27, 2018 18:10:20 GMT
Peaches’ cover stories
I posted this on the CC Forum in 2015:
“I see that Peaches was always explaining things away, her dramatic weight loss in particular. The extreme weight loss seems to have started in 2011, around the time she became engaged to Thomas Cohen, and it got a lot of media attention at the time. The before and after pictures are disturbing.
Along the way, she attributed her extreme thinness to a juice diet, bird flu, hyperemesis gravidarum, loss of sleep with a new baby, healthy eating with no carbs in the diet…
She played things down and had an answer for everything. I wonder how many people she fooled, apart from (possibly) herself. I also wonder how she got away with it for so long.“
There are truthful explanations and there are cover stories. Sometimes a plausible explanation is a cover story.
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 28, 2018 6:28:11 GMT
Cover story for a collapse
Peaches was inventing cover stories years before the weight loss. There was an incident in July 2008 that I posted about on the CC Forum: “Peaches Geldof's recent collapse was caused by her accidentally inhaling ammonia fumes from hair dye, according to the Daily Star. Paramedics rushed to the socialite's London home last weekend to find her unconscious from a suspected drug overdose. The 19-year-old reportedly urged the ambulance crew not to tell anyone about the incident for fear of the news leaking to the tabloids. However, the star's agent denied that the collapse was drug-related, stating that Geldof forgot to open the window when she dyed her hair. Andy Varley said: ’Peaches has made a full recovery from the minor incident reported in yesterday’s papers. After attending last night's Batman premiere in Leicester Square, she is looking forward to work as usual today.’” www.digitalspy.com/showbiz/news/a114278/geldof-collapse-down-to-hair-dye/I said this at the time, and it is still relevant: “Surely no hair dye is this lethal? Would it be permitted to be on sale? There are many pictures of and references to her visits to hairdressing salons online too, so would she do her hair herself?”
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 29, 2018 17:50:58 GMT
A cover story for marks on the skin - and the weight loss is again attributed to dieting
I found another old post about Peaches’ excuses, in which I copied this from an article published in September 2011: “Peaches Geldof has angrily denied suggestions that her recent weight loss was the result of drug abuse and insisted the marks on her skin were caused by psoriasis. ‘I’m not on drugs. If people feel the need to validate my weight loss by saying I’m on drugs then shame on them,’ Peaches told the Sunday Mirror. ‘I’ve changed my diet and the way I live. That’s it. The marks on my arms have been there since childhood. Check any picture â“ it’s caused by a skin condition called psoriasis.’ Her mother, Paula Yates, died of a heroin overdose in 2000 and she has been consistently warned off the drug by her father, Bob Geldof, who has expressed concerns about her party lifestyle in the past. Peaches insisted she was now living much more healthily and that was why she had got slimmer. ‘My mum was thin naturally, like I am now. So is my sister Pixie. I was eating so badly before now and then I stopped and it has fallen off,’ she added. ‘The truth is I just didn’t want to treat my body badly anymore.’” Read more: metro.co.uk/2011/09/11/peaches-geldof-denies-drug-abuse-is-to-blame-for-weight-loss-154654/?ito=cbshareI don’t believe the psoriasis story. Many commenters said that she was unrecognisable at this event in September 2011, and they did not believe Peaches’ insistence that dieting or healthy eating was the cause of her drastic weight loss:
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 30, 2018 6:18:21 GMT
“One thing I have noticed about the fate of Peaches is that her life seamed to have changed drastically to the better a few years before her death...” truthseeker, I have found the old post that I mentioned. Bravado, wishful thinking, trying to convince themselves and others that everything is going to be fine, not to mention their affairs really having taken a turn for the better are all possibilities, but there may be other factors at work. From the old CC forum in 2015: I have noticed that people have died soon after they are reported to have turned their lives around and put the worst behind them. Could they have been delusional and indulging in bravado and wishful thinking, or is there something sinister at work? Did they almost make it but their escape attempts were sabotaged and punished? Charlotte Coleman
“On 13 November 2001 she visited her family where they watched a video together. Her father later stated that she had been in great spirits, because of her new flat in Holloway, North London, which she had decorated, and there was a possibility of a career upturn after a few years of a career stall.“ From Wiki Peaches
“Shortly before she died, Peaches described how being a mother to sons Astala, 23 months, and Phaedra, 11 months, with husband Thomas Cohen had changed her life for the better. In her last interview with Mother&Baby magazine, she said: "I don't think of the world as a negative place any more", adding "I am not about to let them down, not for anyone or anything”. She described having previously been "rudderless and troubled", and said: "Becoming a mother was like becoming me, finally. "After years of struggling to know myself, feeling lost at sea, rudderless and troubled, having babies through which to correct the multiple mistakes of my own traumatic childhood was beyond healing." www.express.co.uk/news/uk/469453/Peaches-Geldof-s-family-may-have-answer-to-sudden-death-as-post-mortem-takes-place-today“ PAULA YATES will be 40 tomorrow and - as the adage predicts - life is just beginning for the former rock groupie. More than two years after the death of her soulmate Michael Hutchence, Paula has stepped off the road to self-destruction and is regaining control. Gradually, she is easing herself back in to work and to motherhood and paying less heed to that other mainstay of her life - men. Pictured this year with her three children - Fifi, Tiger Lily and Peaches - Paula looks less the hapless baby-doll and more the busy working mum. Rock-solid may be less exciting than rock chick, but Paula is a survivor who has finally learned to step back from the precipice...She may not know exactly what the next role should be, but it has to mean stability. Paula admits: "I think the worst is definitely over. In spite of all that has happened to her, Paula has retained her spirit and she is now investing all her energies in her children and career. She's made TV shows for Channel 4 and Sky One, but the role she is most enthusiastic about is that of agony aunt for Aura - the latest "meaty" glossy magazine to hit the shelves.” www.thefreelibrary.com/Weekend+life%3A+Paula+at+40%3B+She's+lived+a+life+of+hedonistic...-a061609675
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Post by truthseeker on Mar 30, 2018 13:10:11 GMT
Coincidently I saw a film last night which seemed to have thematised this too:
The film was called "Die Legende von Paul und Paula" ("The legend of Paul and Paula") and it was produced in the GDR in the 70s: The main protagonists are Paul and Paula who don't feel good about their life:
Paul is unhappily married to a women who is unfaithul to him and he not only lives together with her and their son but also her annoying parents who he does not like. Paula seemes to have it even worse: Even though she is still young she is aready the single mother of two children from two different fathers (both born out of wedlock). She has an underclass job which she hates and she has to live in an old rundown flat. She is wondering if she should marry a certain elder man who is into her because even though she does not find him to be attractive he could provide her and her children with a better life. Then Paul and Paula meet (for the second time) and fall in love. But it isn't easy because Paul is married and after Paula's son is killed by a car she breaks up with Paul. But Paul doesn't give up: He leaves his wife and is able to persuade Paula to get back with him and Paul moves in with Paula. Near the end of the movie Paula talks to her doctor (who looks almost exactly like Joseph Mengele) and tells him how happy she is. She tells him that she is together with her love and that she is expecting a child. Paula's two previous births have already not been easy and the doctor tells her that her body won't be able to survive a third birth. He also mentiones that philosophers would tell her something which I have unfortunally forgotten. Something like that no person can be completely happy. Paula asks the doctor: "Can I not have a baby with the one man I love?" and she also asks her doctor if she doesn't have a slight chance, just a very slight chance that she will survive the birth. The doctor replies that this (that she has absolutely no chance) can't be said. So Paula decides to not abort the baby. In the following scene Paula runs happily through the streets and as she runs down under a bridge (or into an underground tube station) a voice can be heard to tell the viewer "Paula has not survived the birth of the child." In the last scene of the movie Paul is lying in Paula's old bed together with his son from the previous marriage, Paulas daughter from another man and a younger boy which is clearly the baby of Paul and Paula and all three of them look very peaceful.
I told you this because right when Paula was very happy she had to die and she wasn't allowed to raise the child of the man she loved together with him. The irony is that at the beginning of the movie Paul and Paula meet each other and this is happening shortly before Paul meets his first wife and also shortly before Paula becomes pregnant with her second child. But they are just passing by each other and politely greeting each other like strangers. If they would have gotten together back then they could have been happy and Paula would have survived because it was her third child that killed her not her second.
The scene where they meet for the first time but don't care for each other (or at least not Paula for Paul) can be scene in the following video from 2:04 on:
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 30, 2018 18:25:32 GMT
Paula? What a coincidence. I am still wondering about all this.
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 31, 2018 5:42:15 GMT
Two limpets: just a coincidence
We have seen that 2011 was a significant year for both Peaches and Kate Middleton. We have seen photoshopped pictures of Peaches and Kate in which their torsos look odd. This is another Geldof/Middleton coincidence, this time involving Peaches’ mother Paula: “At 21, the Boomtown Rats singer was a pin-up and she was determined to catch him. The other bandmates referred to Paula as "the limpet" for the obsessive way in which she pursued her man.“ www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/469188/I-feel-her-watching-over-me-Tragic-tale-of-Peaches-lost-mother-Paula-Yates“While the Queen and Prince Charles, both of whom are said to like Kate immensely, are said to be sad but supportive of William's decision, Prince Harry is known to have had sympathy with those of William's friends who dubbed Kate "the limpet". "Harry has always felt Kate enjoyed her fame-by association a little too much, unlike his own girlfriend, Chelsy," said a source.” Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-448763/William-women.html#ixzz3qtK67fXk
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Post by UnseenI on Mar 31, 2018 18:40:41 GMT
Peaches and Paula, playing a part?
Another old post: Were they just acting the good parent role and creating an image for the cameras and magazines? There was a thread on Mumsnet, later deleted, in which one poster called Peaches a ‘toxic hypocrite’. This was because she presented herself as a very good mother and gave parenting advice while all the time she was taking drugs. This does assume that certain allegations were true, including one that Phaedra was left alone for 17 hours after her death. "I'm sure she loved them but all the baby wearing, co sleeping, attachment stuff was probably nonsense - an invention to give her a second career." "Seems like the reality was the exact opposite of how she portrayed herself," bemoaned another.” www.independent.co.uk/news/people/peaches-geldof-branded-toxic-hypocrite-by-mumsnet-users-after-heroin-death-9626943.htmlJournalist Linda Lee-Potter had this to say about Peaches’ mother Paula: “Spoilt and selfish, Paula’s a Little Miss Hypocrite. Paula Yates is always playing a role. Perhaps she could now decide to act out the part of devotedly loyal, steadfast wife who abandons her inner yearnings for freedom and stays with her husband and children."
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 2, 2018 7:03:41 GMT
Peaches and a new career in attachment parenting
Another old post: Did many avenues close for Peaches, so that being an authority on babies seemed like the best bet and way forward for a new career and a way of retaining interest and attention from fans and followers and the media? There are many comments online about Peaches’ general lack of talent and her unsuitability for and lack of success in many of the roles that she tried on. They seem to me to be mostly reasonable evaluations as opposed to spiteful criticisms by mean-spirited and jealous people. This comment summarises what many people thought of her: “ no talent whatsoever but very big opinions of herself. She has nil talent, and yet she has money, jobs, status and opportunity lavished upon her. “ forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?p=26270688
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 2, 2018 7:04:34 GMT
Attachment parenting and a nanny
More from the old forum:
I was wondering why, if looking after the two very young boys was so exhausting, Peaches didn't get a nanny. After all, nannies were part of the Geldof children's life. She did get intermittent help from Tom's mother Sue, but that is not the same as employing a live-in nanny.
The obvious explanation is that she would not have been able to get assignments and interviews about attachment parenting; she would have been seen as a hypocrite if people found out. She had reinvented herself as an attachment parenting expert and joined Mother & Baby magazine as a new columnist. She needed the money as she was the main breadwinner.
Perhaps there is more to it than money and parenting ideology.
What if Peaches didn't want a nanny because it would be difficult to hide things, taking drugs for example, from someone who was always around? What if she wanted a good reason for not hiring a nanny? Attachment parenting would be a perfect answer, a cover. Perhaps she wanted people to think that she didn't want a nanny because of AP, when really she chose AP because she didn't want a nanny.
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 3, 2018 6:56:30 GMT
The Ian Watkins connection theory
Several posters thought that there might be a connection between Peaches’ death and her Tweeting of the names of women in the Ian Watkins case. One said: “I'm still of the opinion that she was somehow tricked or lured back onto heroin by someone close to Watkins, it's only a hunch, I know but I just can't shake the feeling.“ Some people dismiss this idea because Peaches didn't reveal anything or expose anyone: she just passed on some names that she found online, on a Welsh court website. They have a point: she found the information in the public domain. However, it is also relevant that many of Peaches' Twitter followers might not otherwise have seen those names. She could have been punished for publicising them so widely, to her more than 200,000 followers. Just a thought. Her Twitter page is still there by the way. The Tweets are protected, but there is a picture of the two boys in blue and orange, colours that have been featured in a few threads. twitter.com/peaches_g?lang=en
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 3, 2018 16:58:27 GMT
That final photoshoot picture yet again: Sortner or Ortner? 2014 or 2012?
A reminder of the picture and the comment in question: I first read the photographer’s name as ‘Andrea Sortner’. I now realise that Avacyn called the photographer ‘he’ because of the profile picture, but Andrea is a girl’s name! Google shows that some pictures of models are definitely taken by ‘Andrea Sortner’, who may come from Munich, including on covers for Vogue and Elle. At first I assumed that she was the person who took the above picture. However, by a big coincidence there is also a fashion and beauty photographer called ‘Andreas Ortner’. Vogue and Harper’s Bazaar are mentioned on the website. Andreas is a man’s name. By coincidence, Andreas is said to be German too. From Google images: Here is the clincher: from his Facebook, although it does not necessarily refer to the above picture: Andreas Ortner 6 October 2012 • shooting with Peaches Geldorf at Swarovsky!The picture was posted on Saturday April 5th 2014, but it could have been taken any time, perhaps on Friday 4th or perhaps much earlier. Swarovski sell crystals. Are those shattered crystals in the picture? Could the above picture be from this shoot in 2012?
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 4, 2018 6:41:48 GMT
Peaches had a narrow escape in 2009
Another old post, generated from another poster’s theory: “Speaking of patterns, seems like celebrities who die have a ‘brush with death’ in an accident beforehand.” This was certainly true in Peaches’ case: “Peaches Geldof narrowly escaped serious injury after being involved in a 'full on car crash' last night. The socialite was on her way to Disneyland in California with four friends when the driver's foot slipped on the pedals, sending the car out of control and into a 360 degree spin on the freeway. Only minutes before the 20-year-old had boasted on Twitter that she was: 'Speeding like I have never, ever witnessed before on the freeway - feel like I'm in a scary car chase video game.'” Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1236444/Peaches-Geldof-killed-horror-car-crash-way-Disney-World.html#ixzz4U6h08SoX Peaches treated her car accident as a bit of a joke and continued on her way to Disneyland: This comment was prophetic: “Foolish girl-- if she's lucky enough to live past her 20's, she'll look back on this and cringe at what an idiot she was. Let's hope she learns that life is precious before it's too late.”
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 4, 2018 6:43:06 GMT
Narrow escapes: could they be warnings?
We found more examples of celebrities who had accidents or near misses for the old forum, including Bono, who went to Peaches’ funeral, and Michael Hutchence.
What could be at work here?
These incidents might just be accident accidents, pure chance and bad luck. Many non-celebrities are involved in car crashes; they are a part of modern life.
These crashes might be warnings and demonstrations of power, attempts to control and intimidate people: “Obey orders or it will be final next time.”
They might be disposal attempts that didn't work.
They could be warnings from the good guys. People do sometimes clean up their act and resolve to reform and change their lifestyles after coming close to death.
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 5, 2018 5:13:04 GMT
Forensic team in protective clothing saved the rubbish
Posters on the old forum questioned the presence of these men; a sniffer dog was also brought in. People thought it odd that they were present at a time when the police said the death was non-suspicious. And why were they taking rubbish from the bins and stashing it? I guessed that the regular police called them in 'just in case', as a celebrity, a known wild-child, had died. I guessed that wearing protective clothing is standard practice, and that taking domestic rubbish to a safe place where it will not be disposed of is done as a precaution, just in case it will be needed.
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 5, 2018 19:09:51 GMT
Was Peaches really home alone?
Did someone go to the house during her final hours? We may never know.
Posters asked whether anything was picked up the CCTV during that final, fatal weekend.
CCTV was installed only after Peaches had died, because the house was left empty. It was later damaged by thieves: her house was broken into twice after her death.
One commenter did say that the CCTV would be found to have been switched off, but this was just a sarcastic prediction based on the Princess Diana case.
One relevant factor is the way that Peaches' life followed a script similar to her mother Paula's. Heroin addict Charlotte Korshak was the last person to see Paula alive; she was in the house asleep in one of the bedrooms, unknown to visitor Belinda Brewin.
In both cases, someone left a child with a person known to have drug problems.
So maybe someone really did visit Peaches that weekend. Perhaps they were there, hidden away in a spare room, when Thomas Cohen's father brought Phaedra back.
Peaches was found in a spare bedroom...
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