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Post by UnseenI on Oct 2, 2017 8:27:25 GMT
***UPDATE now 20 dead and 100 injured are reported
“At least two people have been killed and 24 others wounded in a mass shooting at a Las Vegas concert. A gunman opened fire at an open-air country music festival at the Mandalay Bay Hotel on the city's strip.Hundreds of people fled the scene and the sound of what appeared to be prolonged automatic gunfire could be heard on videos posted on social media.” Blue and orange in this picture: By coincidence, Mandalay was on the news yesterday in a very different connection, when Boris Johnson was reported to have ‘insensitively’ recited some lines from Rudyard Kipling’s poem Mandalay while visiting Myanmar earlier this year. “Mr Johnson began quoting the opening lines of Mandalay during a visit to the Shwedagon Pagoda in Yangon, the capital of Burma, in January before being stopped by an ambassador. The poem by Rudyard Kipling is written through the eyes of a retired British serviceman in Burma, also known as Myanmar, which Britain colonised for more than a century." Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4937502/Boris-Johnson-recites-insensitive-Kipling-poem.html#ixzz4uKxXIXif
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Post by Avacyn on Oct 2, 2017 14:26:58 GMT
Been getting snatches throughout the day. No idea that to make of it. It is something like 100 dead, 406 or so injured.
A terrible loss of life, but it was done by a lone wolf? That is a red flag, right there.
This is really bad.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 2, 2017 14:54:37 GMT
Posters advertising the Las Vegas music festival
They look a bit dark and sinister to me: The Cirque du Soleil, which was featured on the old forum, was due to perform at the hotel this evening.
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Post by Avacyn on Oct 2, 2017 21:05:22 GMT
Well, someone certainly was firing guns, and killing people. I reckon the large number of people injured is through panic and stampeding about.
The real question... was it really Stephen Paddock, or is he a selected scapegoat? There is a lot of information flying around, and I'm seeing claims that there has been Antifa literature found at the hotel, which I'm trying to get confirmation of. Alex Jones has been saying it's the start of a manufactured civil war in America. I fully expect people to be screaming for gun control; Hillary Clinton has already been saying it on Twitter.
Something is certainly going on. The question, though... what?
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 3, 2017 5:27:09 GMT
I am not ignoring the suffering caused by this terrible event, nor am I one to immediately say it is a hoax with crisis actors or a false flag. I try to find a middle path and look for elements that I have learned to find significant.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 3, 2017 5:31:04 GMT
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Post by Avacyn on Oct 3, 2017 19:41:06 GMT
I am not ignoring the suffering caused by this terrible event, nor am I one to immediately say it is a hoax with crisis actors or a false flag. I try to find a middle path and look for elements that I have learned to find significant. I fully agree. Process the event, and see what surfaces, and go where the evidence takes you. I just wanted to ground things, so anyone viewing this thread, or wanting to participate wasn't going to immediately go "it's a hoax!" It clearly happened, people were shot, people were killed. It could still be a false flag, or manufactured event, but it certainly isn't a fake event. That's what I'm trying to get across, at any rate.
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Post by Avacyn on Oct 3, 2017 19:52:36 GMT
Okay... this is serious. It's fifty eight seconds or so, but pay attention to it. Gunfire, and clearly from much lower down. People are saying it is the fourth floor that the shooting happened.
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Post by Avacyn on Oct 3, 2017 19:55:51 GMT
Another short video, thirty two seconds. Again, showing gunfire from much lower down.
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Post by Avacyn on Oct 3, 2017 20:39:49 GMT
Okay... This is a compilation of a good ten minutes, and one thing is clear - it sounds like it was some sort of military weapon. Certainly not something someone can just go out and buy.
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Post by Avacyn on Oct 3, 2017 21:00:29 GMT
This is about one minute thirty seven seconds, and she seems genuine. Wearing blue, which could be significant. So... there was a Hispanic couple saying they were all going to die, a time before the shooting happened?
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Post by Achilles on Oct 3, 2017 21:45:01 GMT
Posters advertising the Las Vegas music festival
They look a bit dark and sinister to me: The Cirque du Soleil, which was featured on the old forum, was due to perform at the hotel this evening. In light of the events that transpired a truly unfortunate name for the event.
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Post by Avacyn on Oct 3, 2017 21:52:39 GMT
Posters advertising the Las Vegas music festival
They look a bit dark and sinister to me: The Cirque du Soleil, which was featured on the old forum, was due to perform at the hotel this evening. In light of the events that transpired a truly unfortunate name for the event. Welcome to the forum. Well, being cynical, you can view it as intentional. If this was all planned on a high-up level, then the name would have been carefully selected.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 4, 2017 4:24:35 GMT
Welcome from me too AchillesThe first thing that came into my mind when I saw those posters was a harvesting of souls. 91 makes me think of 911. I am also remembering the shooting of Christina Grimmie, and Before You Exit. There is a lot of discussion of guns and the Las Vegas scene in various places online, which I know nothing about. People are picking up many anomalies and discrepancies too. There is a big, Egyptian-themed hotel next door to the Mandalay...
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 4, 2017 5:20:21 GMT
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 4, 2017 5:30:36 GMT
Arcade Fire
Here is a poster for a forthcoming attraction at Mandalay Bay. “Arcade Fire” makes me think of shooting galleries...
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Post by Avacyn on Oct 4, 2017 22:11:49 GMT
Butterflies? This hotel is certainly curious... Oh, and the original owners - and builders was a Circus Circus Enterprises, though is now owned by MGM Mirage. And it is indeed connected to the film studio, though the link might be historic now.
Some footage of the outside of the shooter's hotel room:
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Post by Avacyn on Oct 4, 2017 22:16:30 GMT
Here are three body language videos: two of eyeewitnesses, and one of Paddock's brother. Here, it gets interesting.
The eyewitnesses make sense; they are genuine. But the brother's behaviour being the way it is... it makes you wonder what is going on.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 5, 2017 5:20:28 GMT
I am not much good with videos. It does seem likely that a lot was going on behind the scenes, and maybe on another dimension too.
Las Vegas is packed with replicas so perhaps all the lions, obelisks, pyramids etc. around the hotel are not too significant.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 5, 2017 5:22:58 GMT
All is One and a music festival coincidence
We discussed the All is One, Unite etc. etc. movements on the old forum. We also wondered whether deaths at music festivals could really be sacrifices. The Cirque du Soleil was due to perform its very successful Michael Jackson tribute show One at the Mandalay Bay Hotel. Some performances have been cancelled.
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Post by Avacyn on Oct 5, 2017 22:53:07 GMT
You know, the more I look at all of this, the more I'm getting convinced it is a False Flag. What is worse, the media seems to be part of it. I've seen a number of interviews, and people were saying there were multiple shooters, and then you have the news reporter basically working to cast doubt on what was said, and to insist it was just one shooter.
Another thing is just how fast videos are being removed from YouTube. That, or being slapped with Age restriction, meaning you have to log in to see it. Meaning you then get noted down. Sneaky.
In any case, it is like a clean-up is going on, as though anything that could contradict the official story. Meaning, I'll have to make a concerted effort every time I find a relevant video, I download it immediately.
But here is what has my big attention: the media assault on /pol/. For those who are not aware, /pol/ is 4Chan's Politically Incorrect board, and they have been a thorn in the side of officials for some time. Looks like they are starting to target them in a serious way:
So, hit pieces were written hours after the shootings, to cast /pol/ as an uncaring villain. This convinces me that this was organised, and prepared for. They knew how /pol/ would respond, and were waiting. Thing is, I can see the whole of 4Chan do what the media cannot: self reflect, and try to understand what happened. I can imagine them all start to formulate responses to any future assaults, too. You don't mess with 4Chan, that's for certain.
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Post by Avacyn on Oct 5, 2017 23:18:11 GMT
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 6, 2017 5:20:34 GMT
Vaporwave
The Mandalay Bay Hotel favours the rich colours of purple and gold on its posters, which echo the colours and stripes on the outside of the building. There is a genre of combined music and art called Vaporwave. This was completely new to me, but some elements are familiar. Here is one of the products, which reminds me of the posters above:
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 6, 2017 5:31:03 GMT
I almost missed the "We Are One" because of the huge extract and giant pictures!
I just scrolled past as I can't deal with all that.
You have found something very significant and relevant to what we were discussing on the old forum. I think it needs to be showcased as the DM would put it.
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Post by Avacyn on Oct 10, 2017 21:47:24 GMT
Also, the picture of the the shooter above, it's been photoshopped.
Orange wristbands? His eyes wide shut? Certainly caught my attention...
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Post by Avacyn on Oct 10, 2017 22:04:18 GMT
Okay... about five minutes thirty, the eyewitness talks of going into the Tropicana, and people then rushing out, because they believed the shooter was on the roof. This is interesting, because there has been a video surfacing, about armed escorts being in the Tropicana. This is generally at the right timeframe, if not able to be completely confirmed. The basis for Corrolation has been made with a show running at the time, Imaginarum. This has my attention, because it immediately brought to mind the film The Imaginarum Of Doctor Parnassus. It was the last film Heath Ledger was in.
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Post by Avacyn on Oct 12, 2017 23:04:33 GMT
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 19, 2017 16:32:45 GMT
Security guard Jesus Campos
The incident is still being discussed, with typical fights between those who insist that it involved crisis actors and those who believe it was all real. There are arguments about many other aspects of the case, including the number of shooters, with pure speculation, fake news and false, changing or misleading information muddying the water.
I have nothing to contribute, except for a very small coincidence. Jesus Campos is the Mandalay Security guard who was the first victim of the shooting.
Campos means fields; Las Vegas means the meadows. This makes me think of killing fields.
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Post by Avacyn on Oct 19, 2017 22:42:21 GMT
Security guard Jesus Campos
The incident is still being discussed, with typical fights between those who insist that it involved crisis actors and those who believe it was all real. There are arguments about many other aspects of the case, including the number of shooters, with pure speculation, fake news and false, changing or misleading information muddying the water. Tell me about it! It's tiring trying to point out the flaws in their arguments, too. By the way, you know the picture I posted up, of Paddock with his eyes shut? It was a photoshop. In other words, they deliberately put the image together. Why? Because they wanted to convey a message to someone, or someones, hidden in plain sight. Nice. Also, didn't Campos disappear, or something? Also, there were way too many guns in that place to do a shooting. You cannot use all of them. My guess? It was a gun deal gone bad, and the people who killed him then did the mass shooting. My opinion, I'll add.
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