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Post by Avacyn on Jul 8, 2019 6:55:37 GMT
I'm sure people know already, but Jeffery Epstien has been arrested again, for offences going back to 2000. This does not connect to his previous conviction, which was heavily reduced due to plea bargaining.
I wonder if Rae Chandler is going to emerge as his number one procurer? Time will tell.
I'll link up sorces, once I'm better set up. But this one is massive, and a huge win.
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 12, 2019 19:16:16 GMT
I normally avoid such horrible cases Avacyn, but wondered whether you had seen the picture of the temple on his island. It has an owl statue; who knows what it has been used for.
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Post by magpiejack on Jul 14, 2019 9:59:46 GMT
I normally avoid such horrible cases Avacyn , but wondered whether you had seen the picture of the temple on his island. It has an owl statue; who knows what it has been used for. Apparently it has soundproof walls and a lock bar on the inside. "According to island workers who spoke with the Associated Press, the building may have been designed as a music studio, outfitted with a grand piano and acoustic walls. (Epstein is a classically trained pianist.) Business Insider also contacted engineer and contractor James Both, who noticed a few suspicious details about the temple. “It’s styled like what you might see on a castle, with what appears to be a reinforcing lock bar across the face,” he said. “What makes it peculiar is that if you wanted to keep people out, the bar would be placed inside the building, [but the] locking bar appears to be placed on the outside … as if it were intended to lock people in.” From this perspective, sound-dampening walls sound much more suspicious." nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/everything-we-know-about-jeffrey-epsteins-private-islands.html
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 14, 2019 19:06:33 GMT
This case is getting worse and worse. I do hope that he will not be able to buy his way to freedom.
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Post by Avacyn on Jul 15, 2019 18:08:23 GMT
I am well aware of that temple. And of the tunnels underneath.
He got way with it last time, after a fashion. This time? No chance. He's going down - hard. And dragging Bill, Kevin and the rest that flew on the Lolita Express.
Here is a video, with the account of one of the victims: (Warning - graphic.)
Ghislaine Maxwell is the daughter of Robert Maxwell, the newspaper mogul who mysteriously drowned on his boat.
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Post by Avacyn on Jul 15, 2019 18:13:04 GMT
A couple of videos compiling information for people.
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Post by Lavendel on Jul 15, 2019 20:57:51 GMT
I am well aware of that temple. And of the tunnels underneath. He got way with it last time, after a fashion. This time? No chance. He's going down - hard. And dragging Bill, Kevin and the rest that flew on the Lolita Express. Here is a video, with the account of one of the victims: (Warning - graphic.) Ghislaine Maxwell is the daughter of Robert Maxwell, the newspaper mogul who mysteriously drowned on his boat. Hi Avacyn i am on a break from the board but i have been following this story. I have read somewhere they some group is using the throwing meetoo ; weinstein, brofmann nexim, epstein, in prison to 'protect christian 'women from evil international travellers. The group wants to show women are unable to protect themselves even when rich and educated. thus there is need to create laws to protect women. put predatory international travellers in prison, bring anti abortion laws to protect women and so the international travelers have no babies for rituals. there is a project behind the urgency to put the 'steins' is court i dont understand because everyone knew about their predatory behaviors for years. to make it sound fair they raided r.kelly home.
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 16, 2019 7:52:33 GMT
Lavendel I hope that you are enjoying the summer and following all the stories about Archie. It is good to see these horrible men finally brought to trial, and I hope that they get what they deserve.
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Post by Lavendel on Jul 18, 2019 15:03:37 GMT
Lavendel I hope that you are enjoying the summer and following all the stories about Archie. It is good to see these horrible men finally brought to trial, and I hope that they get what they deserve. UnseenI i feel well rested. yes am following the sussex thread but i have not the strength to go there. Little Alligator Archie put me off them . They sucked all the good will i had for them.
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Post by Lavendel on Jul 18, 2019 15:05:51 GMT
on the weistein and Epstein i think they are part of a wider plot. now they are planining to increase air transport fees by imposing a tax then cars will be taxed, there is a tax for foreign cars driving thro germany. i read somewhere that uk will become the 52nd usa state. with trum p they said the NHS will be on the take over deal. Brexit and now the sussex were out to support the first baseball game in uk , the lion king film they attended was a black /silver event and only beyonce was in gold. I wonder what is being rolled out. there five immigrant representatives giving trump a headache but if you look closely the fight is part of the plan. the women made a press conference dressed in black , white, red. the leader in black gold. the twitter picture of the loudest is black white with a red -white -gold backdrop. i think the are communication to the others that all is a show to stir up emotions and close borders as part of the plan to legitimise migrants and close borders then start the enviromental disruption so people are displaced, mixup marry and create a one race nations.
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Post by Lavendel on Jul 18, 2019 15:24:57 GMT
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Post by magpiejack on Aug 9, 2019 18:14:32 GMT
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Post by magpiejack on Aug 10, 2019 15:07:35 GMT
Epstein found dead in cellSo it's all over for Epstein. Suicide - or 'suicided'? It wasn't a very efficient suicide watch, was it? www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49306032Torontopaper1 has tweeted these three enigmatic tweets within the last hour: "Don't get distracted by the media noises. Look for the connections and the silent powerful helpers. There you find answers." "Focus on the media mogul named in the little black book and the connection of his family to our darling." (Darling = Meghan) "Don't focus on the death. Focus on the inheritance. Don't focus on the man. Focus on the book." twitter.com/torontopaper1
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Post by UnseenI on Aug 10, 2019 16:58:43 GMT
Well, well, well. What a surprise. Avacyn I see that you emerged briefly from your secret underground tunnel complex to look at this thread! I am not sure of the implications of today’s news. Is the death connected to yesterday’s document release?
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Post by Avacyn on Aug 10, 2019 17:07:00 GMT
Interesting Twitter find, magpiejack . Let's look at it, shall we? "Don't get distracted by the media noises. Look for the connections and the silent powerful helpers. There you find answers." Silent powerful helpers... Rachel Chandler, and Ghislaine Noelle Marion Maxwell. A news article about Rachel Chandler, and people looking into her: www.dailydot.com/layer8/qanon-rachel-chandler/And Ghislaine is the daughter of Robert Maxwell. Who was a media mogul. Died mysteriously, too. We have two handlers, right there. Some things found... (if I can get them to show!)
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Post by Avacyn on Aug 10, 2019 17:41:04 GMT
Well, well, well. What a surprise. Avacyn I see that you emerged briefly from your secret underground tunnel complex to look at this thread! I am not sure of the implications of today’s news. Is the death connected to yesterday’s document release? From Wikipedia: Epstein died of an apparent suicide by hanging on August 10, 2019,[210] while imprisoned at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in the New York City borough of Manhattan. Prison officials found his body in his cell at 7:30 a.m.[8] His death comes after he was found previously unconscious in his jail cell with injuries to his neck. After the incident, he was placed on suicide watch.[211] Epstein was 66 years old.[210]Now... we need to realise that there are over a million pages of evidence. This is the start of the destruction of the whole Kabal. And to try and get up to speed the thread, this is what I quickly found SOURCE: www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-court-orders-release-of-sealed-docs-about-alleged-sex-ringThe article has a PDF of relevant court documents to Virginia Roberts getting the court documents unsealed. Another interesting article, trying to debunk things as mere "conspiracy theory" Him hanging himself is significant. How can he have done it on suicide watch? Basically, he was offed. He was eliminated, because dead men are not talkative.
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Post by magpiejack on Aug 10, 2019 18:16:50 GMT
Some more thoughts and observationsI agree Avacyn that it wasn't a suicide - he was either offed, or agreed a deal and has gone into hiding in return for evidence. Reporter Adam Klasfeld has posted this, as told to him by a former federal prosecutor: “An important note after Epstein’s death: no one else will have standing to challenge the search warrant on his house. Everything will be admissible against any other defendant without possibility of a motion to suppress.” Regarding the Torontopaper tweet "Don't focus on the death. Focus on the inheritance." - so he's officially dead, so what is the 'inheritance'? A lot of money obviously, but also his possessions. It's speculated that he managed to amass an inexplicable huge fortune through blackmail, so there may be evidence - photographs, video tapes - that could be extremely compromising. Bearing in mind the above comment that the authorities now have free rein to go through all his belongings, some concrete evidence may come to light. "Focus on the media mogul named in the little black book and the connection of his family to our darling." Rupert Murdoch is listed in the book, I'm not aware of any family connection to Meghan. There is also David Geffen, he is openly gay and the only family that I can find is a brother and two nieces. 'Family' may be a loose term perhaps? Close friends around him? Geffen was at the Sicily Google summit and hosted a lot of celebs on his huge yacht, including Oprah Winfrey. I wonder how accurate the representation of the Google summit was - the media focus being on climate change and how they spewed out tonnes of co2 in getting there. There were, however, other topics such as politics and the world economy, maybe the media spin was to distract us from what they were really talking about. Could a turf war between the mega-rich have been on the agenda, and whose 'side' are they on? Were they helping Harry there, or not? Maybe plotting to bring about Meg's downfall by exposing her? I've mentioned in the Sussex thread that we haven't seen a photo of Meg out and about since the Lion King premiere 4 weeks ago. We haven't seen one of Harry since then either. One interesting point is that Prince Andrew's official website is currently down.
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Post by magpiejack on Aug 10, 2019 19:25:56 GMT
A media mogul connection
lila4 has posted this on Tumblr:
"Rupert Murdoch. His daughter Elisabeth second marriage is with Matthew Freud, Freud PR . Freud’s first wife is Caroline Hutton. Caroline Hutton was the second wife of Earl Spencer, Diana’s brother."
I don't know how chummy a first wife would be with the second wife, though.
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Post by Avacyn on Aug 10, 2019 20:05:18 GMT
Media... how do we define the word? Newspapers, or by television/film?
Freud PR... Didn't Fifi, sister of Peaches Geldof work for them for a while?
As for the death being faked by the Alliance... you are not alone in that:
This is going to get very, very big, I reckon.
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Post by magpiejack on Aug 10, 2019 20:46:25 GMT
Media... how do we define the word? Newspapers, or by television/film? Freud PR... Didn't Fifi, sister of Peaches Geldof work for them for a while? As for the death being faked by the Alliance... you are not alone in that: This is going to get very, very big, I reckon. Yes Avacyn, media is very broad - newspapers, books, magazines, television, cinema, internet... One common feature of supposed 'deaths' is that they give us photographic 'proof' (Q'dafi, Hussein, Bin Laden) so it's interesting to see a photo of Epstein in the hospital. Now, he was on 24 hour suicide watch (after an earlier 'attempt' to set the stage) and it was said that he was found dead in his cell. He's shown wheeled into the hospital with an oxygen mask on (for a dead person??) and then this photo is published. I thought that asphyxia turned the face blue and mottled though I don't have medical training, so make of this as you will. Who on earth is allowed to take photos of someone receiving treatment in a hospital? He's done a deal and is probably having plastic surgery as we speak.
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Post by Avacyn on Aug 10, 2019 20:58:21 GMT
The picture you've posted... it's not Epstein. You can tell by the nose, and the ear. Ears are like fingerprints: They are unique to the person. This is a deliberate effort to have him dead.
I would not be surprised if there was a deal of some sort. I've been expecting him to make one, given the scale of what is coming for him. Doubt he'll be going away scott free, mind you... but likely has something a little better. Likely a well furnished solitary cell, or something. He won't be walking free, that is for certain.
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Post by magpiejack on Aug 10, 2019 21:00:04 GMT
Faulty CCTV - you couldn't make it up!
Ah, the suicide watch failed as the CCTV wasn't working - that always happens with dubious events, doesn't it?
You can bet your life that if I go into my local town and break into a bank, all the CCTV in the area will be working fine and dandy.
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Post by magpiejack on Aug 10, 2019 21:01:07 GMT
The picture you've posted... it's not Epstein. You can tell by the nose, and the ear. Ears are like fingerprints: They are unique to the person. This is a deliberate effort to have him dead. I would not be surprised if there was a deal of some sort. I've been expecting him to make one, given the scale of what is coming for him. Doubt he'll be going away scott free, mind you... but likely has something a little better. Likely a well furnished solitary cell, or something. He won't be walking free, that is for certain. Well spotted!
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Post by magpiejack on Aug 10, 2019 22:04:57 GMT
A media mogul connectionlila4 has posted this on Tumblr: "Rupert Murdoch. His daughter Elisabeth second marriage is with Matthew Freud, Freud PR . Freud’s first wife is Caroline Hutton. Caroline Hutton was the second wife of Earl Spencer, Diana’s brother." I don't know how chummy a first wife would be with the second wife, though. Many thanks to fullbananabouquet on Tumblr, who has connected the dots. Sara Latham, the Sussexes' PR director, worked for Freuds before taking up the post. Freuds is run by Matthew Freud and he is listed in Epstein's black book. He was Rupert Murdoch's son in law until his divorce in 2014.
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Post by Avacyn on Aug 10, 2019 23:30:18 GMT
A media mogul connectionlila4 has posted this on Tumblr: "Rupert Murdoch. His daughter Elisabeth second marriage is with Matthew Freud, Freud PR . Freud’s first wife is Caroline Hutton. Caroline Hutton was the second wife of Earl Spencer, Diana’s brother." I don't know how chummy a first wife would be with the second wife, though. Many thanks to fullbananabouquet on Tumblr, who has connected the dots. Sara Latham, the Sussexes' PR director, worked for Freuds before taking up the post. Freuds is run by Matthew Freud and he is listed in Epstein's black book. He was Rupert Murdoch's son in law until his divorce in 2014. Very nice. Matthew Freud... this is the link to it all. I think we need to look more deeply into him. He is clearly a key link in all of this.
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Post by Avacyn on Aug 10, 2019 23:47:44 GMT
Oh, boy... Matthew Freud's father was Clement Freud. Who happened to be living in the same town that Maddie went missing... And his sister is partner to Richard Curtis, who wrote Four Weddings And A Funeral, And also Blackadder... Matthew Freud hosted a noisy party, Bob and Pixie Geldof attending: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3475147/PR-guru-Matthew-Freud-s-annual-party-Kate-Moss-Idris-Elba-angers-neighbours.htmlBiography of a number of that family. Interesting how Sigmund lived in Hampstead... www.standard.co.uk/news/meet-the-freuds-7296288.html"Fifi, his oldest daughter, wrote a piece recently for the Daily Mail in which she discussed her depression. As it wasn’t in the FT, Geldof found out she’d written it only when the publicist Matthew Freud mentioned it, but, he says: “If she did write it, I’d be really happy, because I really think she has an ability with words. Also, she’s decided to champion Mind, to say, ‘Hold on, I can use this stupid surname I have and maybe get a focus on this good thing.’”" SOURCE: www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/18/bob-geldof-peaches-paula-yates-press-boomtown-rats"Fifi (she never uses her flowery middle name, Trixibelle) has always tried to stay out of the limelight. Awkward and overweight as a teenager, she has blossomed into a beautiful woman. Friends always describe her as “kind, solid and one of the nicest girls you could meet.” She took a receptionist job at Matthew Freud’s PR company, and is now an executive. She never mentioned her famous parents at work and staff were stunned when Sir Bob turned up one day to be greeted by Fifi with the words: “Hello Dad”." SOURCE: www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/735678/bob-geldofs-secret-heartache-over-peaches/Well, that answers that one. I was remembering correctly. More needs to be done with looking into them, I reckon.
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Post by UnseenI on Aug 11, 2019 7:05:03 GMT
Murder, suicide, accident or a staged death?
I can’t be sure. Witness protection does exist, but it seems very unlikely in this case. From what I have seen, no one is buying the suicide story.
Wouldn’t Epstein’s murder mean that he can’t hire lawyers to silence and discredit his accusers or protect all the information he has?
There are huge numbers of names and connections in this horrible case. I have never heard of many of the people but others are very familiar indeed.
We posted a lot of information about the Freuds, Fifi, Notting Hill and associated people, places and events on the CC forum. It would take forever to recreate it all.
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Post by UnseenI on Aug 11, 2019 7:07:39 GMT
Rachel Chandler, Tom Guinness and Daisy Lowe
“I wonder if Rae Chandler is going to emerge as his number one procurer? Time will tell.” Avacyn this didn’t mean anything at the time, but she is being mentioned in many places now so I had a quick investigation. Rachel Chandler is married to model Tom Guinness, who has attended events at a pop-up Soho House. They had a pagan style wedding. They both look...unhealthy, to put it mildly. They have a certain unmistakeable look. Back in 2009, Tom Guinness was seeing Daisy Lowe, a major figure in the Peaches Geldof case on the old CC forum. It is interesting that the links to the DM article all lead to a blank page, but I found it archived: web.archive.org/web/20091104011126/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1224366/Now-Daisy-Lowe-develops-craving-Guinness.html
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Post by magpiejack on Aug 11, 2019 8:43:40 GMT
Murder, suicide, accident or a staged death?
I can’t be sure. Witness protection does exist, but it seems very unlikely in this case. From what I have seen, no one is buying the suicide story. Wouldn’t Epstein’s murder mean that he can’t hire lawyers to silence and discredit his accusers or protect all the information he has? There are huge numbers of names and connections in this horrible case. I have never heard of many of the people but others are very familiar indeed. If he's agreed to cooperate, he won't need lawyers. He's probably agreed to this media suicide deception and to live a quiet hidden life (hopefully with no access to females), turned over all his evidence that he's amassed and his 'death' means that anyone identified cannot raise any legal objections to the police obtaining the evidence from his house. Their choice will be to go down or cooperate. Checkmate! I agree with you about all the connections, the super-rich are very sociable and untangling all the connections is like undertaking the Labours of Hercules.
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Post by magpiejack on Aug 11, 2019 12:19:00 GMT
More photoshop evidenceI've just seen this on Aangirfan's blog.
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