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Post by UnseenI on Jul 1, 2018 6:20:38 GMT
Work is a very big issue
Earning a living can be a big problem for conspiracy investigators for many reasons. This is a very depressing and painful subject.
We many need to accept that what other people are doing and what we would like to do may be irrelevant: there may not be opportunities or we may not be able to take advantage of the opportunities that we get.
The work itself, the physical working conditions, the terms of employment and the people we work with can all cause big problems. We may not be able to keep up or fit in; we may not be able to accept or tolerate conditions, modern open-plan offices for example, that other people have no problems with.
There is no ‘right niche’ waiting for people like us: we have to make a life for ourselves.
Home-based self -employment was the only solution for me, Self-employment means less bureaucracy and control and more independence; working at home means being able to work free from distractions and interruptions.
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Post by truthseeker on Jul 2, 2018 9:29:15 GMT
I don't know whether or not smoke detectors can be harmful in themselves. Making them compulsory seems less intrusive when I think about fire risks. I do agree that people who can think independently - conspiracy investigators for example - will find the nanny state and many forms of intrusion and compulsion unacceptable. Sometimes there is not a lot we can do about it. I am an adult and I should chose for myself if I want to take the risk of dying by fire or not. It is hardly a risk anyway because I know how to prevent a fire. Some people argue: 'Think about your neighbours!' But my neighbours have their own smoke detectors which would wake them up in time.
If smoke detectors really send out frequenzies which are harmful to us (and I believe that this is true for some of them) when they are really evil. I used to read a book in which somebody said something similar like: "We can't attack someone in their own home. That is forbiden." The book mentioned that in order to attack someone in their home they should either be allured to the window or to be made to open the door. But there seem to be people who don't care for this universal law. Or maybe I shouldn't have opened the door when the man with the smoke detectors came? I wonder what would have happened if I did this.
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 2, 2018 17:58:22 GMT
Enforcement truthseeker there are few things I hate more than having something forced on me. It is even worse when it has a damaging effect. I wish I could think of a solution to your problem with the smoke detectors. At the moment they are compulsory only for rented property in the UK, but I think that soon I will be forced to have them. We have something similar over here with a new electricity meter called smart meter. They are not compulsory - yet - but the salesmen are telling people that they are. They even make appointments to come round and fit them without being invited. I have managed to fight them off, but a friend believed them and now she has one. Paranoid people say that the Russians can use them to spy on us! There was an outbreak of a new type of flu a while back. I have never had a flu injection and never will, but they were being pushed hard. A young doctor friend told me that where she worked, people were being dragged by their arm to a place where they were forced to have a flu jab. It turned out that the flu outbreak was much less severe than expected, so all the pressure to get injected was for nothing. When something is optional, if you can say no and mean it people will leave you alone. I have people trying to force me to take part in discussions, fill in surveys etc. at the moment and I am standing up to them.
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Post by truthseeker on Jul 2, 2018 20:49:11 GMT
I don't exactly know how to word what I want to express but isn't it strange how heavy some things are pushed? I find it hard to believe the story with the flu vaccination (people being dragged by their arm) but if it is true: Why is it so incredible important for some people that people receive the flu vaccination? Is it that important for them that we are healthy and don't catch a flu? When people or institutions become incredible pushy or even hard headed I sometimes (depending on each case individually) feel a little bit irritated.
I think about the situations in which I fought really hard for something and what made me fight so hard for it and sometimes people fight incredible hard for something, yet it does not make any sense to me why they fight so hard for it.
Do you understand what I mean?
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 3, 2018 8:05:46 GMT
truthseeker you have raised some very good points. I need time to prepare a proper answer, but in the meantime I will say that it is often about money.
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 3, 2018 19:10:53 GMT
"The intuitives and senstives are just maybe 15 % of the population." As much as that Lavendel? I would have put it much lower - but that is just intuition!
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 3, 2018 19:13:59 GMT
Smoke detectors
Could you find a way to switch them off that would not bring the troops down on you? I know that there are clever people who like to beat the system and give tips online.
Is there a campaigning group that is trying to get the dangers recognised? Many people are exposing the truth about smart meters over here.
Is there any way that you could build up your strength and resistance?
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 4, 2018 6:56:46 GMT
Smart meters and the fight to install them truthseeker there are many reasons for fighting for or against something. This topic is best dealt with one step at a time. I want to say more about smart meters as they are a good place to start. I feel about them the way you do about smoke detectors. At the top level, we are being pushed to get a smart meter on the grounds that they are free, they save us money on electricity and meter readings can be taken automatically. A little research exposes some of the truth. The meters many be installed free of charge, but the cost is covered by raising the price of electricity for everyone - my monthly payment has just been increased. They wouldn’t save me any money as I am careful with electricity usage, and I am happy to give meter readings online every few months. The sales people are misleading consumers because they have targets to meet. They must get a certain number of meters installed if they are to get their bonuses. Target-related bonuses are the curse of modern life; they make sales people very pushy. They always mention the advantages to the consumer, but it is usually all lies - or at least very misleading. But why are smart meter sales people being pushed to sign people up? This is for two reasons, which a little research soon found. There is a huge supply of the version 1 meters in stock; they work only for the company that installed them, so when consumers change suppliers, which happens a lot, they become useless and the consumer has to get meter from the new electricity supplier. So they are pushing and lying just to get rid of the old-style meters as new version 2 models are coming. Not only that, but the companies have been ordered by the government to get a certain number smart meters installed and they will face huge fines if they don’t. This explains the pushiness - desperation is behind it. The sales people are being pressured by the electricity companies and the electricity companies are being pressured by the government. The government wants to make the meters compulsory eventually. But why? This is where we get into conspiracy land. There is more than one way to get smart maters into homes. I get a small discount on my electricity bills because I pay directly from my bank account each month. This reduction is an incentive for people to stop using cheques. There is talk of a special reduction for people who get a smart meter, which will be unfair to people like me who refuse to get one.
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 4, 2018 7:01:37 GMT
The dangers of smart meters
There is a big campaign against smart meters: “Officials said smart meters are perfectly safe, as the level of radiation they emit is less than that of a mobile phone. Energy companies are planning to install the devices in British homes by 2019 to make gas and electricity readings more accurate. However, Stop Smart Meters UK told MPs that there is evidence the radiation could be 140 to 800 times higher than that from mobile phones... Last year, the Government revealed that having smart meters would be voluntary amid health and privacy fears. Ministers had promised that every household would have a smart meter by 2019 in a £12 billion programme to stop gas and electricity bills being estimated. In America, utility companies have been hit with multi-million dollar class action lawsuits from people who have had the devices installed in their homes.” www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/energy/10015679/British-families-at-risk-from-smart-meters-campaigners-tell-MPs.htmlAssuming that some electrical devices are compulsory, is there anything we can do to protect ourselves against the radiation? Could you find something to put over the smoke detectors? Unfortunately there are dangers here too. Beware of pseudo-science. Many people will try to sell you gadgets that either protect people against non-existent dangers or are useless against real dangers. It is all about money and making people paranoid in these cases. www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/how-to-protect-yourself-from-smart-meter-radiation/
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Post by Lavendel on Jul 4, 2018 17:58:01 GMT
"The intuitives and senstives are just maybe 15 % of the population." As much as that Lavendel? I would have put it much lower - but that is just intuition! @unseenl, 15% are born sensitive and intuitive.some 5% really are aware of their intuition and use it. 5% have their intuition and sensitivity blocked by trauma and other psychological issues and end up in mental hospitals. The last 5% may be unaware or are aware but hide it or dont accept they are different or shamed my society or fear or like harry potter bad upbringing, suffering, programming, lack of knowledge block the intuition. Others use it for evil. Others the power is captured by others. Harry potter or percival or Sherlock are born intuition and use it for good. To find and destroy evil. The 15% is not only in humans. Its found 15% of aminals are intuitive and sensitive to the environment. For instance in animals you will notice that in a pack of monkeys or horses there is one who is always careful and warns others of danger . There is always that which smells, rain, earthquake, enemies and plans of enemies and moves to the higher ground long before others realise what’s happening. In the kings courts they were the seerers who warned them of good and bad times . Among the horses the intuition are constantly on fight of flight mode and will lead the pack out of danger. There is a big study being carried out by chinese on the 15% sensitivies in their country. They are studying to find out how their brains work and how to use it for technology advancement. Japan and others are doing the same. However its not easy for them to create a pattern or template to use because intuitions is variable. But the industry is realising without sensitive employees intuition innovation is going to not develop much. There is a fight to buy out sensitivies. However I think they are using frequencies, doctors, kindergartens to identify children and people with this gift.
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 4, 2018 18:24:53 GMT
Canaries down the pits
“For instance in animals you will notice that in a pack of monkeys or horses there is one who is always careful and warns others of danger . There is always that which smells, rain, earthquake, enemies and plans of enemies and moves to the higher ground long before others realise what’s happening.“ Lavendel you may not know that in the UK coal miners used to take canaries down the pits with them. Gas was a great danger; the miners didn’t know that it was there until it was too late. The canaries were an early warning system. They would flutter and show signs of distress so that the miners would know they should get out. I think that some people are similar, but no one notices or cares. Or worse, such people are persecuted or exploited, as opposed to being valued.
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 4, 2018 18:26:34 GMT
Pushy people pushing hard
It is very hot here and it is difficult to think clearly! It is not easy to find good answers to your questions.
This is a very important topic. Why do they do it?
It is possible to make a list of the possible reasons and decide which are the most likely. Then you go down a layer and see what is behind it all - then go down another layer. Evil people may be using the pushy people for their own agenda, and something very evil may be using the evil people!
At the top level, we have power, money, fear, money, career progression, money, control, money, wanting people to conform and obey orders, money and hating people who can think for themselves are some reasons for pushing something very hard. People may have targets to meet and boxes to tick.
It is very important not to take what pushy people say at face value: you must think about their motives, goals and agenda. They always pretend concern and say that it is being done for the sake of wellbeing of their victims, but that is just the cover story.
There may be a hive mind at work, which makes people feel a huge pressure to be pushy.
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 4, 2018 18:27:53 GMT
Pushing vaccinations
“Why is it so incredible important for some people that people receive the flu vaccination? Is it that important for them that we are healthy and don't catch a flu?” This article says that it is all about money: “The government cares about you being vaccinated. No, they don’t necessarily care about the negative effects of the vaccination or your concerns, but they do invest millions of dollars to ensure as many people as possible receive things like the flu vaccine every year. They say they care because they want you healthy, but evidence shows not only do they not care, but vaccinations aren’t a good way to maintain health. Why? What’s the big motivator for the government to push vaccines like a dealer pushing illegal drugs on the corner? Like any other drug dealer, there’s only ever one real motivation, and it isn’t your health... The vaccine industry is just another money-making, good-ol’-boy network of “Crony Capitalism”. It isn’t about your health or the “preparedness” of the nation for an outbreak. It’s about money. It’s about lining the pockets of the multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical industry at any cost—including if that cost is your life or that of your child.” naturalsociety.com/why-does-government-care-about-vaccinating-you/I think that modern offices with air-conditioning and sealed windows make people more likely to get some form of flu - and other infections. I am lucky to have got away from all that. I also think it is about making people follow the herd. I have not forgotten that some organisations may be trying to push ‘natural’ solutions to some illnesses. They may just want money too. Would you like to buy a tinfoil hat from me? It will protect you against those radiations from the smoke detector!
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Post by Lavendel on Jul 4, 2018 19:11:56 GMT
Canaries down the pits
“For instance in animals you will notice that in a pack of monkeys or horses there is one who is always careful and warns others of danger . There is always that which smells, rain, earthquake, enemies and plans of enemies and moves to the higher ground long before others realise what’s happening.“ Lavendel you may not know that in the UK coal miners used to take canaries down the pits with them. Gas was a great danger; the miners didn’t know that it was there until it was too late. The canaries were an early warning system. They would flutter and show signs of distress so that the miners would know they should get out. I think that some people are similar, but no one notices or cares. Or worse, such people are persecuted or exploited, as opposed to being valued. @unseenl you will notice a kingdom or society which protects its sensitives prosperity comes. However an organization, society and kingdom which starts persecution of the alternatives, sensitivities starts to die. I noticed that as the masons and dark forces seek control them more sensitives are taking refuge in caves, forests, and off grid locations. Now luxury tents and mobile homes or rather small wooden homes are on sale. Minimalism is going up . The sensitives cannot carry the burdens of the society and there is no space for them in this changing world. In europe and Israel they are persecuting nomads of late. In Israel the bedouin nomads the most sensitives of beings are being caught in fight between palestines and israelites and their land which is a desert is being taken. Bedouines acording to religious historians are the origins of abraham, and other biblical tales tell of their stories. They keep horses and donkeys for work and sheep and goats for food . They talk of “ green heart” in their tales because they are spiritual friendly and hospitablr people. Still they find no home in israel. Bedouins are very sensitive people and live in caves or open desert with no contact to outsiders. In Europe there such folk who are intuitive but they live hidden away from society.
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 5, 2018 6:52:02 GMT
“When people or institutions become incredible pushy or even hard headed I sometimes (depending on each case individually) feel a little bit irritated.“ A little bit irritated truthseeker? I am being pushed very hard at the moment and it is very frightening but luckily it makes me angry too. I suspect that conspiracy investigators can see through all the little tricks quite easily, but are strongly affected by the relentless and evil intention behind them. I know what the motives, goals and agenda of these people are. I have detected some of the same manipulative methods that unscrupulous salesmen use. Even so, it is all very stressful.
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 5, 2018 6:54:33 GMT
"The sensitives cannot carry the burdens of the society and there is no space for them in this changing world." Yes, I said that there was no 'right niche' for some people Lavendel. I am lucky enough to have some marketable abilities and some good contacts for work, but there seems to be no place for some people.
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 26, 2018 6:48:38 GMT
Avoiding overloads
Some people need to be very careful not to get too overloaded. If we do go into the danger zone, we may be unable to function. Worse yet, intuition can go into reverse and distress signals can attract predators. I have experienced this myself.
Getting enough sleep and nutritious food is essential.
Avoiding people and situations that are draining, damaging and unsettling is advisable too - much easier said than done unfortunately.
It may be hard to accept some restrictions, all the more if everyone else seems to be doing all kinds of exciting things, but just as we go where they can’t follow, they go where we often can’t or shouldn’t follow.
This may not seem too relevant to modern life as such, but the media tell us about all the opportunities out there and what other people are doing, which can be a temptation to take on more than we can cope with and live beyond our means in many ways.
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Post by Lavendel on Jul 26, 2018 10:16:56 GMT
Avoiding overloads
Some people need to be very careful not to get too overloaded. If we do go into the danger zone, we may be unable to function. Worse yet, intuition can go into reverse and distress signals can attract predators. I have experienced this myself. Getting enough sleep and nutritious food is essential. Avoiding people and situations that are draining, damaging and unsettling is advisable too - much easier said than done unfortunately. It may be hard to accept some restrictions, all the more if everyone else seems to be doing all kinds of exciting things, but just as we go where they can’t follow, they go where we often can’t or shouldn’t follow. This may not seem too relevant to modern life as such, but the media tell us about all the opportunities out there and what other people are doing, which can be a temptation to take on more than we can cope with and live beyond our means in many ways. Thats so true. We all need to find out what works for us and stick to it. For instance i cant go out to the beach or be out in the sun. So i spend much time reading and thats fun.
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 27, 2018 19:21:37 GMT
You can't go to the beach or out in the sun at all? It is just too hot at the moment, but I try to get out when possible.
I would suggest short breaks away from home rather than holidays, or day trips rather than short breaks.
If even a day trip is too much, a few hours on a scenic bus ride is good.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 12, 2018 7:44:59 GMT
Spying on us? truthseeker you mentioned Smartphones spying on people in one of your posts from June. I just have a laptop, but this week there have been two occurrences of what must be deliberate spying. I sent an email to someone mentioning that I had finally opened a tin of rhubarb that had been around for ages. I looked for images of tins of spam for a recent post, and a tin of rhubarb was among them! I also searched online for help with getting Chrome onto a tablet, and have just received an email asking me whether I am still interested in loading Chrome! These are harmless examples, but what about controversial topics. Maybe I should use ProtonMail and DuckDuckGo instead of Googlemail and Chrome.
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Post by UnseenI on May 17, 2019 9:34:47 GMT
The attack-dog syndrome
This method of silencing critics, dissenters and speakers of the truth has been around forever, but modern life has produced a new source of attack - online. This can mean large numbers of attackers when someone posts even a very reasonable remark or a mild criticism.
There are many examples involving Meghan Markle’s PR people and sugary supporters. The poster gets jumped on or even viciously attacked. In the attackers’ eyes, it is a crime to tell the truth, ask awkward questions or criticise their client or idol.
For example, I saw a DM comment where someone said that the photo of Archie Harrison’s feet looked photo-shopped and that they appeared to come from an older baby. The attack dogs immediately jumped in with the usual accusations against the poster, ignoring what he actually said.
This is a dead giveaway, a sign that the poster has hit home. The defending sugars have no answers so try to silence and discredit the critics.
For some people these angry replies to their comments may be beneath contempt, but they feel the negative emotions behind the responses very strongly. Even if there are no posted responses, just an angry internal reaction, sensitive people can sense the hate and destructive vibes aimed at them. Only someone who has experienced this will understand and believe such an outrageous claim!
It is important to be aware that this can happen, and if possible move to a higher level before posting.
There is another side to this: a post might trigger a lot of positive emotions. A good lead, interesting information, an amazing discovery or a very funny remark can bring in a lot of good vibes from many people all over the world!
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 23, 2019 6:30:55 GMT
“John Paul Watson ...claimed that people suffering from depression do so by their own fault” truthseeker I couldn't watch the video for more than a few seconds. For me, videos are for entertainment only; I prefer to get information via words. That man's voice was too much for me! What sort of person would say a thing like that? It would be better to think in terms of what, if anything, someone is doing that might make them depressed or might make the depression worse. Diet and sleep are very important. There might be room for improvement there. It is also best to avoid energy vampires and very negative people if possible. I have been reading about the lives of three people recently, and it is so depressing that I have stopped for a while. Their misery is infectious! Finding something funny to read is a way of improving my mood.
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Post by magpiejack on Jul 23, 2019 9:28:40 GMT
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 23, 2019 18:50:04 GMT
I felt really ill when I had to work in offices that were full of Wifi boxes.
I suspect that even having many Wifi hotspots in the area can cause low level malaise.
Moving to a remote location would create other problems.
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Post by UnseenI on Jul 24, 2019 8:20:04 GMT
Just learning about Common Purpose and other initiatives is enough to cause depression.
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Post by magpiejack on Jul 24, 2019 9:18:07 GMT
Just learning about Common Purpose and other initiatives is enough to cause depression. Indeed, it's an insidious organisation.
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Post by UnseenI on Aug 27, 2019 17:02:58 GMT
Memory foam
Some people think that memory foam is the best thing ever. I wish that I had done more research before falling for all the positive reviews!
The chemicals in the bedding I bought made me ill and I had to dispose of it.
Some people are very sensitive to such things.
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Post by UnseenI on Apr 4, 2020 18:02:59 GMT
Coronavirus and conspiracy theories
The virus is being discussed everywhere, sometimes by people who think that 5G caused the pandemic.
I have been thinking about an aspect that is of interest here: the effect that the virus will have in general when it comes to conspiracy investigations.
It seems to me that while the lockdown restrictions might give housebound people more time and opportunities to look at conspiracy sites and spread some ideas and information, the stress might bring some of them down to a level where these ideas don’t mean much. Worrying about redundancies and where the rent will come from and suffering because of not being able to get out and socialise may make conspiracy topics seem unimportant and irrelevant or even a luxury.
As for people who are still working, they may have to carry an extra load because of ill colleagues so become too tired to do much investigating even if they have any spare time.
The restrictions have made little difference to me.
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Post by Avacyn on Apr 19, 2021 7:06:03 GMT
Just learning about Common Purpose and other initiatives is enough to cause depression. Indeed, it's an insidious organisation. It is all communism through the back door.
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Post by Avacyn on Apr 19, 2021 7:10:01 GMT
Memory foam
Some people think that memory foam is the best thing ever. I wish that I had done more research before falling for all the positive reviews! The chemicals in the bedding I bought made me ill and I had to dispose of it. Some people are very sensitive to such things. It can be quite shocking what things are in these products. And they love people having no clue, either. It is like non stick pans. That material can start to get into the food, should it get scratched. Not to mention aluminium saucepans and frying pans...
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