Here's something that I hadn't spotted previously. I don't know much about babies, but I am aware that you should support a baby's head for a few weeks after birth as their neck muscles aren't strong enough to support their head. Archie was supposedly born on 6 May. This photo was taken on 8 May. Look where Meg's hand is.
So what could this mean? Is it a doll? Is the baby older than the official age?
"Data! data! data! I can't make bricks without clay!" - Sherlock Holmes in "The Adventure of the Copper Beeches" by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
“I began to get really keen, for every man at the bottom of his heart believes that he is a born detective.” - Sir Edward Leithen in "The Power House" by John Buchan
"One more thing that I have thought of, I don't know if it's been commented on elsewhere - Diana's sisters were in the christening photo. Where was Earl Spencer? The Express suggests that it's because the Queen was upset at his comments at Diana's funeral, but the Queen and Phillip weren't at the christening."
The Express is dreadful. I have never used any of their material. All the Spencers came to the wedding with the royals. I am not sure that the sisters were really there for the christening!
"Data! data! data! I can't make bricks without clay!" - Sherlock Holmes in "The Adventure of the Copper Beeches" by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
“I began to get really keen, for every man at the bottom of his heart believes that he is a born detective.” - Sir Edward Leithen in "The Power House" by John Buchan
Here's something that I hadn't spotted previously. I don't know much about babies, but I am aware that you should support a baby's head for a few weeks after birth as their neck muscles aren't strong enough to support their head. Archie was supposedly born on 6 May. This photo was taken on 8 May. Look where Meg's hand is.
So what could this mean? Is it a doll? Is the baby older than the official age?
I think it is a baby, whose we really don't know, but definitely not 2 days old or it would have a broken neck if held like that.
I saw a comment on Twitter by a wife of a paediatrician; she showed him this photo and the christening photo and he said that it wasn't the same child in the two photos. He said that the ears, jowls and shape of skull all differed.
That's allegedly an experts opinion, personally I've never had much to do with babies so I couldn't say.
Last Edit: Jul 26, 2019 20:05:39 GMT by magpiejack
"One more thing that I have thought of, I don't know if it's been commented on elsewhere - Diana's sisters were in the christening photo. Where was Earl Spencer? The Express suggests that it's because the Queen was upset at his comments at Diana's funeral, but the Queen and Phillip weren't at the christening."
The Express is dreadful. I have never used any of their material. All the Spencers came to the wedding with the royals. I am not sure that the sisters were really there for the christening!
Ha ha! Yes, I agree with your last sentence!
Let's face it, all the tabloids are pretty dreadful. I do particularly dislike the Express as it is owned by a pornographer.
I've just come across these photos - yikes, look at those expressions. I did see a comment about this event that she was asked to leave, she seems to be moving away in the second photo (look where the tree is).
Funny how these didn't make it into the papers.
Last Edit: Jul 26, 2019 19:51:55 GMT by magpiejack
Here are a couple more - she's making her way to the car and the woman in the pink dress and white belt who was talking to her has gone over to talk to Kate.
Last Edit: Jul 26, 2019 21:18:08 GMT by magpiejack
I don't know what to make of all this, but I can well believe that she was not expected and caused trouble by turning up. She is said to have done this for several events.
We don't know who took the original pictures, who created the shopped ones and who released or leaked them and to which media outlets originally - once online they get picked up and copied worldwide.
There is the pink dress worn by Kate, which has short sleeves; there is the one worn with a white belt and I think there is another one in some pictures. The lurking red & white dress person could be a protection officer.
"Data! data! data! I can't make bricks without clay!" - Sherlock Holmes in "The Adventure of the Copper Beeches" by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
“I began to get really keen, for every man at the bottom of his heart believes that he is a born detective.” - Sir Edward Leithen in "The Power House" by John Buchan
Your top two pictures seem to be unshopped. I have not seen them before so perhaps they were never officially released.
I have found a better version of one of the others; Kate is suspiciously big and the car is suspiciously small:
"Data! data! data! I can't make bricks without clay!" - Sherlock Holmes in "The Adventure of the Copper Beeches" by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
“I began to get really keen, for every man at the bottom of his heart believes that he is a born detective.” - Sir Edward Leithen in "The Power House" by John Buchan
"Data! data! data! I can't make bricks without clay!" - Sherlock Holmes in "The Adventure of the Copper Beeches" by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
“I began to get really keen, for every man at the bottom of his heart believes that he is a born detective.” - Sir Edward Leithen in "The Power House" by John Buchan
Lavendel posted this picture a while back. She is definitely with Kate, and the dog could be Lupo:
"Data! data! data! I can't make bricks without clay!" - Sherlock Holmes in "The Adventure of the Copper Beeches" by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
“I began to get really keen, for every man at the bottom of his heart believes that he is a born detective.” - Sir Edward Leithen in "The Power House" by John Buchan
Your top two pictures seem to be unshopped. I have not seen them before so perhaps they were never officially released.
I have found a better version of one of the others; Kate is suspiciously big and the car is suspiciously small:
It depends on the ground - I can't see for certain as the cars are in the way, but they could be on a slope which would alter the perspective. As Pink Dress/White Belt gets closer to Kate, they are roughly the same height.
Kate is 5' 9". Meghan is said to be 5' 6", but that may be in heels.
Just a further thought about Pink Dress/White Belt - she looks as if she's stooped forward, maybe bobbing down in a curtsey? I would imagine that polo people would be sticklers for protocol, and it would be why Kate looks so tall in comparison.
It's hard to know the perspective from just one angle.
Perhaps the woman in the red dress is the nanny? Her face is not clearly shown in any of the pictures. There would definitely be protection officers there though, but I would imagine that they wouldn't be holding a dog on a lead. They would need to be ready for any kind of threat.
Last Edit: Jul 27, 2019 10:16:58 GMT by magpiejack
I must have been thinking of Carrie Symonds when she watched Boris go to Number 10. Is this just a coincidence or is there a message here?
"Data! data! data! I can't make bricks without clay!" - Sherlock Holmes in "The Adventure of the Copper Beeches" by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
“I began to get really keen, for every man at the bottom of his heart believes that he is a born detective.” - Sir Edward Leithen in "The Power House" by John Buchan
I have no idea why those two people had such strange expressions, but am wondering whether they saw 666 on the baby, or noticed a doll label!
The women in red does not look much like nanny Maria to me. I vaguely remember some assistant who was ex-police I think - that was on CC.
"Data! data! data! I can't make bricks without clay!" - Sherlock Holmes in "The Adventure of the Copper Beeches" by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
“I began to get really keen, for every man at the bottom of his heart believes that he is a born detective.” - Sir Edward Leithen in "The Power House" by John Buchan
I have no idea why those two people had such strange expressions, but am wondering whether they saw 666 on the baby, or noticed a doll label!
The women in red does not look much like nanny Maria to me. I vaguely remember some assistant who was ex-police I think - that was on CC.
Possibly a 666 doll label! I can only vaguely recall what the nanny looked like, so you may well be right. She did have her eagle eye on Meg!
Yes, pink dresses - they must be this summer's must-have, they do look nicer than khaki tents.
I was intrigued by the man listening to the exchange with Meg, that gesture of two fingers on his upper lip and I felt it meant something. I looked up the body language meaning and found this about covering your mouth with your fingers when you're listening to someone:
"If he or she is a listener, it might mean that he/she feels that you are not being totally honest and sincere with them."
As for the woman's look, I see that a lot in customer service situations: "I really don't want to be telling you this and I'm being as nice as I possibly can, but the answer's no."
It must be hard to plead with someone and expect them to see reason when they're a duchess. Meg certainly didn't look happy and maybe as if she was going to cry.
Last Edit: Jul 27, 2019 19:05:42 GMT by magpiejack
The pink dresses could as you say be fashionable - the colour, the style, the designer...
I think there is a story here but we are only seeing snippets and not in the right order.
I am wondering what sequence the pictures were taken in. Did Kate have a conversation with those people and tell them to 'get her out of here.'? Then she turned away leaving them to get on with it.
They are Charlie Gilkes and his wife Anneke von Trotha Taylor by the way.
"Data! data! data! I can't make bricks without clay!" - Sherlock Holmes in "The Adventure of the Copper Beeches" by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
“I began to get really keen, for every man at the bottom of his heart believes that he is a born detective.” - Sir Edward Leithen in "The Power House" by John Buchan
The pink dresses could as you say be fashionable - the colour, the style, the designer...
I think there is a story here but we are only seeing snippets and not in the right order.
I am wondering what sequence the pictures were taken in. Did Kate have a conversation with those people and tell them to 'get her out of here.'? Then she turned away leaving them to get on with it.
They are Charlie Gilkes and his wife Anneke von Trotha Taylor by the way.
Thanks for the names, I wondered who they were.
Charlie Gilkes is a schoolfriend of Harry's, they were both at Eton. His wife works in PR - I wonder if she was using her PR powers of persuasion, or letting Meg know that her PR sucks!
I agree, it would be interesting to see the sequence of photos instead of piecemeal. I've seen what has been described as the only video footage, it's quite grainy for some reason, doesn't last for very long and may have been shot from a distance. I guess that they roped the press off some distance away.
Last Edit: Jul 28, 2019 17:53:41 GMT by magpiejack
The mainstream media give the impression that the two duchesses were practically picnicking together, sitting down and discussing babies! These stories are backed up with some of the cobbled-together pictures. The two pictures that have not been posted everywhere tell a different story. Maybe Meghan has completely lost the plot.
"Data! data! data! I can't make bricks without clay!" - Sherlock Holmes in "The Adventure of the Copper Beeches" by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
“I began to get really keen, for every man at the bottom of his heart believes that he is a born detective.” - Sir Edward Leithen in "The Power House" by John Buchan
The mainstream media give the impression that the two duchesses were practically picnicking together, sitting down and discussing babies! These stories are backed up with some of the cobbled-together pictures. The two pictures that have not been posted everywhere tell a different story. Maybe Meghan has completely lost the plot.
Today they're saying that Kate and Meg exchange frequent texts about parenting; they really do insult our intelligence. There are a lot of comments out there that show that many people aren't falling for it.
Not many people are buying these pathetic attempts to make Meghan seem popular with fellow royals it seems.
New stories are appearing. Maybe we had better leave the recent puzzles behind us. We can’t be sure what they were all talking about, but we can have a good guess.
I don’t think we have posted these two pictures yet:
"Data! data! data! I can't make bricks without clay!" - Sherlock Holmes in "The Adventure of the Copper Beeches" by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
“I began to get really keen, for every man at the bottom of his heart believes that he is a born detective.” - Sir Edward Leithen in "The Power House" by John Buchan
Just thought I'd add this for posterity - it's only a short clip. It's laughable that it was reported that Kate and Meg were 'bonding' - look how Kate pointedly ignores her. Gilke's wife moves in and then a 'suit' (security?).
Why on earth is she bobbing up and down? I've never seen a mother do that!
I remember that some articles gave the impression that they had a nice little family picnic!
Something very strange was going on that day.
"Data! data! data! I can't make bricks without clay!" - Sherlock Holmes in "The Adventure of the Copper Beeches" by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
“I began to get really keen, for every man at the bottom of his heart believes that he is a born detective.” - Sir Edward Leithen in "The Power House" by John Buchan
The plane pictures are being reproduced, analysed and discussed everywhere.
The DM has got hold of most of them.
Many commenters agree that there are many things that are not right about them.
I am posting my favourite anomaly here, just for the record.
‘Meghan’ has a very skinny leg, and a disappearing fat one! Look at the flat shoe below the wing of the plane:
"Data! data! data! I can't make bricks without clay!" - Sherlock Holmes in "The Adventure of the Copper Beeches" by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
“I began to get really keen, for every man at the bottom of his heart believes that he is a born detective.” - Sir Edward Leithen in "The Power House" by John Buchan
"Data! data! data! I can't make bricks without clay!" - Sherlock Holmes in "The Adventure of the Copper Beeches" by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
“I began to get really keen, for every man at the bottom of his heart believes that he is a born detective.” - Sir Edward Leithen in "The Power House" by John Buchan
Rather than lengthen the ever-burgeoning Sussex thread, this seems more appropriate here. I thought this photo looked odd:
Compare her face to this one, an engagement photo; it looks quite different. We all know she wears wigs so that's why there is no receding hairline on the one above. Doesn't her nose look different, though? The shape of the chin looks altered too.
Last Edit: Sept 20, 2019 19:22:32 GMT by magpiejack
Interesting news from Chris Ship (ITV royal correspondent) on Twitter - the flight taking UK journalists was cancelled from Heathrow yesterday. They're waiting for BA to get a working plane. Was it delayed for a reason I wonder, was there something that they weren't supposed to see? Darren Doll coming off a plane?
Here's another one for comparison. I'm not entirely sure about the shape of the ears in comparison too, the shape looks a bit off - maybe the reason for the oversized earring?
Last Edit: Sept 21, 2019 10:08:16 GMT by magpiejack
By the way, I know that I seem to be obsessed with Big People, but why are H & M so much taller in the top picture in your first post? In the DM video, the other young men are on their level.
They just want to drive us crazy I think.
Do you know how to put pictures side by side - good for comparisons?
"Data! data! data! I can't make bricks without clay!" - Sherlock Holmes in "The Adventure of the Copper Beeches" by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
“I began to get really keen, for every man at the bottom of his heart believes that he is a born detective.” - Sir Edward Leithen in "The Power House" by John Buchan
By the way, I know that I seem to be obsessed with Big People, but why are H & M so much taller in the top picture in your first post? In the DM video, the other young men are on their level.
They just want to drive us crazy I think.
Do you know how to put pictures side by side - good for comparisons?
It depends on where they're standing, it might be a slope?
No I don't know how to do side by side - please PM me with instructions!