Behind the royal façade: what are they hiding from us?

transformer the nanny was discussed a while back, and there were some connections to The Omen.

I still can't understand why the Cambridges chose a non-British nanny. There is no information about which families she worked for previously. She does not look like the sort of healthy, happy and wholesome person who is best for young children to be with.

Something very strange is going on here.

transformer there is a bit more about some connections in posts in this thread from October 2017.

I get a messed-up quote box when I try to quote you: it could be your avatar but sometimes we get ProBoards problems.

Billie Whitelaw and The Omen

I should have said that I was taking about the 1976 original version, not the remake.

By coincidence, Billie Whitelaw, who played Mrs Baylock who comes to take care of the boy Damien, died in London four years ago today.

By coincidence, Damien’s mother is called Katherine,

By coincidence, Mrs Baylock, like Maria Burrallo, is a Roman Catholic

Prince William and the shiny shopfront

I posted an extract from a DM article on the old CC forum in 2016:

Sickbag time

Boris Johnson’s sister Rachel has written a sugary article about Prince William in the DM.

“RACHEL JOHNSON: Weepy William is no wimp - he's my ideal modern man.
 
And so to the continuing national hunt for Prince William's stiff upper lip. It was first reported missing when he told a boy who had lost his mum to cancer that he missed his own mother every single day, and had done for 20 years.

It was still deemed AWOL a couple of days later when he visited a call centre that runs a helpline for worried parents and begged for 'an easy one, please'. He went on to explain why he wanted to be let off the hook. 'I'm carrying a lot of things at the moment. I will be in floods of tears at the end otherwise…

Prince William and his perfect wife and family are the gleaming new shopfront of the Royal Family. If he were being true to strict Windsor form, he would allow no cracks in that fascia to show, as a point of principle and pride.”

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3761529/RACHEL-JOHNSON-Weepy-William-no-wimp-s-ideal-modern-man.html#ixzz4IeOn7fF7

Perfect wife? Gleaming new shopfront? A lot has happened since that article was published. Most people realise now that many horrors hide behind the shiny royal façade. The cracks have been showing for a while now; maybe the whole thing will crumble away.

In Princess Diana’s own words

She put on a show, a façade of happiness just for the public:

“I’ve got what my mother’s got. However bloody you’re feeling, you can put on the most amazing show of happiness. My mother is an expert at that. Because I had a smile on my face, everybody thought I was having a wonderful time. That’s what they chose to think — it made them happier.”

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4612290/Diana-s-tapes-reveal-moment-confronted-Camilla.html#ixzz4kFoQpajO

People chose to think this? It was the impression they were intended to get.

And her smiles never looked false, frenetic and over the top the way Kate Middleton’s sometimes do.

The Athenaeum Club mystery again

From the Daily Telegraph in 2012:

“A lot of us took the view that Savile would not be a natural habitué of a club that has counted Sir Winston Churchill, Lord Palmerston and Lord Curzon as members, but the fact is we had no choice,” one grandee of the establishment in Pall Mall informs Mandrake.

“It was Cardinal Basil Hume, at the time the Archbishop of Westminster, who put this character up for membership, and, while we did give consideration to blackballing Savile, we knew that would have had to result in something that could not be countenanced – Hume stepping down.”

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/celebritynews/9596850/Sir-Jimmy-Savile-causes-anguish-at-the-Athenaeum.html

They had no choice? Why not let Hume resign? Could Savile’s royal connections be the real explanation?

Did the royal family have no choice but to accept Meghan Markle?

Savile is involved in two small banana coincidences.

From WiKi:

“Andrew Neil interviewed him for the TV series Is This Your Life? in 1995 where Savile ‘used a banana to avoid discussing his personal life’"

Savile also hung upside down dressed as a banana to present an episode of Top of the Pops.

I've just been reading the older posts about the Queen Mother and drinking. Anyone around in the 1980s and early 90s will remember Spitting Image, they lampooned all the royals but held off with a QM puppet for a long time.

Here she is with the rest of the family - I remember that they gave the QM a Brummie accent, and one sketch where she cut the conversation to an end with "Where's me gin?"

There are Spitting Image extracts on YouTube. I wish that it would come back and feature the Sussexes and Cambridges!

After reading about his childhood, I can well believe that George VI could be ‘difficult’.

They are just drinking tea here, but a lot was going on behind the elegant façade:

A Georgian royal scandal - Princess Sophia

Discussion elsewhere about Elizabeth I has reminded me of a scandal attached to George III's daughter Sophia, who was alleged to have given birth to an illegitimate child. Here is a synopsis from Wiki.



Princess Sophia (1777 – 1848) was the twelfth child and fifth daughter of George III.

In her youth, Sophia was closest to her father, who preferred his daughters over his sons; however, she and her sisters lived in fear of their mother. The princesses were well-educated but raised in a rigidly strict household. Though he disliked the idea of matrimony for his daughters, King George had intended to find them suitable husbands when they came of age. However, the King's recurring bouts of madness, as well as the Queen's desire to have her daughters live their lives as her companions, stopped would-be suitors from offering for most of the princesses. As a result, Sophia and all but one of her sisters grew up in their mother's cloistered household, which they frequently referred to as a “Nunnery".

Though she never wed, rumours spread that Sophia became pregnant by Thomas Garth, an equerry of her father's, and gave birth to an illegitimate son in the summer of 1800. Other gossip declared the child was the product of rape by her elder brother the Duke of Cumberland, who was deeply unpopular. The Prince Regent supposedly warned his sisters not to be alone in the same room with the Duke. Historians are divided on the validity of these stories, as some believe she gave birth to Garth's child while others call them tales spread by the Royal Family's political enemies.

Limited in exposure to eligible men, Sophia and several of her sisters became involved with courtiers and equerries. Sophia entered into a relationship with her father's chief equerry, Major-General Thomas Garth, a man thirty-three years her senior. He had a large purple birthmark on his face, causing Sophia's sister Mary to refer to him as "the purple light of love” and courtier and diarist Charles Greville to call him a "hideous old devil". Despite this, one lady-in-waiting noted "the princess was so violently in love with him that everyone saw it. She could not contain herself in his presence." Greville wrote about Sophia and her sisters' affairs in a diary entry, "women fall in love with anything – and opportunity and the accidents of the passions are of more importance than any positive merits of mind or of body... [The princesses] were secluded from the world, mixing with few people – their passions boiling over and ready to fall into the hands of the first man whom circumstances enabled to get at them.”

Gossip soon spread of the existence of an illegitimate child. Some historians contend that, sometime before August 1800 in Weymouth, Sophia gave birth to a child fathered by Garth. Flora Fraser believes the rumours that Sophia had a child, but has questioned whether the child was fathered by Garth, or Sophia's brother the Duke of Cumberland. Historians further write that the child, baptised Thomas Garth like his father, was raised by his father in Weymouth, where his mother would visit him occasionally. In 1828 he apparently tried to blackmail the royal family with certain incriminating documents from his father about his supposed parents' relationship, though this ended in failure.

Gossip soon spread of the existence of an illegitimate child. Some historians contend that, sometime before August 1800 in Weymouth, Sophia gave birth to a child fathered by Garth. Flora Fraser believes the rumours that Sophia had a child, but has questioned whether the child was fathered by Garth, or Sophia's brother the Duke of Cumberland. Historians further write that the child, baptised Thomas Garth like his father, was raised by his father in Weymouth, where his mother would visit him occasionally. In 1828 he apparently tried to blackmail the royal family with certain incriminating documents from his father about his supposed parents' relationship, though this ended in failure.

Conversely, Anthony Camp challenges the belief that Sophia had a child and provides a detailed summary of the available evidence. In his book Royal Babylon: the Alarming History of European Royalty, author Karl Shaw writes of the possibility that the Duke raped his sister, citing evidence from Charles Greville's diaries, as well as other factors. Historian Gillian Gill believes that Sophia secretly gave birth to the child and that this is the reason Sophia never married. Alison Weir and others, however, write of a possible marriage between Sophia and Garth the same year as the child's birth, but there is no evidence to back this assertion other than the presence of a wedding ring in a portrait of an aged Sophia.

After the death of Princess Augusta she inherited Clarence House and Frogmore.

George III and Weymouth

I didn’t know about the Princess Sophia stories or the Weymouth connections.

I had a short break in Weymouth some years ago, but didn’t know about George III’s visits or the white horse at the time. Some people say that King George never even saw the horse.

I don’t remember seeing this statue of King George either. The inhabitants felt grateful for all the money he brought into the town by making it popular. When I was there, it was obvious that there wasn’t much money around.

Prince Andrew and some filthy-rich Azeris

A DM article from 2012 about rich Azeris who buy their way into everything contains some very familiar wording:

“…none has been so high- profile or controversial as Prince Andrew, a regular guest of President Aliyev.
In Azerbaijan, Prince Andrew is routinely described as a ‘dear guest’ by the leader of a country that ranks as one of the most corrupt in the world on the Transparency Index.

But in Britain, the Prince has been heavily criticised for a friendship that appears to be continuing, though he has now stood down from his role as trade envoy. Last month, he met with Britain’s Ambassador to Azerbaijan at Buckingham Palace.

Prince Andrew has made eight visits to Azerbaijan in six years; two of these were private, arousing suspicion that he has business interests there, including a soon-to-be-built golf complex.

These claims have been vigorously denied by Buckingham Palace.”

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2237824/Azerbaijan-oil-heiresses-bathe--beneath-lurks-murky-secrets.html#ixzz2TFWITA25

Denial yet again. I think that more people believed him last time around than they do now.

Did Jeffrey Epstein have to outbid the Azeris to get Prince Andrew to accept his invitations?



Royal pals: President Ailyeva's wife Mehriban Aliyeva talking to Prince Andrew at an oil conference in Baku with her eldest daughter Leyla (left)

More about the Moncktons’ spying for and on the royals

Members of the Monckton family are alleged to have spied on both Edward VIII and Princess Diana:

“On closer inspection, the relationship between Monckton and the ‘disruptive’ Diana, is somewhat inexplicable, perhaps just very odd. Diana was a fashion goddess and fitness fanatic who delighted in shopping and modern music. Monckton, by contrast, is a highly cerebral woman of the world, married to a man with links to MI6 that no journalist or newspaper editor should ever have.

Jane Tawbase also raises two further questions on this murky subject and throws more light on the matter than most before or after her.

She wrote: ‘Whether Rosa Monckton introduced her brother to the princess and whether he was part of the MI6 operation. It was almost unthinkable that he was not.’ In her second point she wrote: ‘Did MI6 ask Rosa Monckton to do the key job of moving into the princess’s inner circle and become her confidante? It would certainly have made the job easier.’

Dissident MI6 officer, Richard Tomlinson, who has been harassed for years by the French and British authorities, is certain that Monckton’s brother is a spy.

It should be noted that Anthony and Rosa’s grandfather worked for Edward VIII and kept a close watch on him for the security services throughout the abdication and beyond.

Like Diana, the British Establishment were determined to rid themselves of Edward VIII. The Queen Mother, however, said that Diana was a greater threat to the House of Windsor than Wallis-Simpson and Edward VIII put together. Tawbase concludes that, ‘It would indeed be ironic if history had repeated itself and Rosa Monckton performed the same role for MI6 with regard to Princess Diana.’"

www.whale.to/b/mi6__the_lying_game.html

So which royals are being spied on now on behalf of the Queen?

“... the Moncktons and their alleged links to MI6. All strenuously denied ...”

magpiejack such denials do not work too well in the world of today.

I am sure that the surveillance equipment is much more sophisticated too.

I couldn’t find any obvious examples of Rosa Monckton using her royal connections on behalf of Jeffrey Epstein, nor any pictures of her with Ghislaine Maxwell, but the latter two must have known about each other.

MI5 book

That is a wonderful bargain magpiejack.

I like spies and double agents, but only in the pages of fiction. The real thing in the world of today seems both sinister and sleazy.

Books by Rafael Sabatini and John Buchan are examples of the spy fiction I like best.