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Post by UnseenI on Oct 28, 2017 16:09:20 GMT
Maria Burallo in full Norland uniform
When Nanny Maria first appeared in the news, people made some unkind comments in the mainstream media. They likened her to a James Bond villainess and Damien’s nanny Mrs Baylock in The Omen (1976 version). One said that she wouldn’t leave her children with someone like that. Pictures such as these don’t help: The uniform is very unflattering and old fashioned. Why would she be required to wear it on some occasions? What messages does it give?
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 28, 2017 16:12:29 GMT
The Omen and the Cambridges: some small coincidences
In The Omen, Mrs Baylock arrives as a replacement for a young nanny who has hanged herself – as did Jacintha Saldanha. There are other ways to make way for someone else, so perhaps the nanny sacrificed herself.
Mrs Baylock has come to protect Damien, who is officially the son of Katherine and Robert Thorn but is actually the Antichrist. The Thorns' own child was murdered at birth so that Damien could take his place. Damien later kills the Thorn’s unborn child.
Mrs Baylock persuades a nurse to allow her access to Katherine, who is heavily sedated and under police protection after the murder.
When Kate (Catherine) was in hospital, she was reported to be very sick. She would probably have been under some kind of protection. Two Australian radio presenters tricked a nurse into giving them telephone access to Kate’s room.
A very small coincidence is that Mrs Baylock has a huge black dog, and the Cambridges have Lupo, a black cocker spaniel!
Harvey Spencer Stevens, the child actor who played Damien, had to have his blond hair dyed dark brown; there are allegations that Prince George’s brown hair is dyed blond.
I don’t think that Prince George is the Antichrist, but I do wonder what really went on in that hospital in December 2012.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 29, 2017 7:30:05 GMT
Maria Borallo’s background
Who was she working for before she joined the Cambridges? She is reported to have been recommended to William & Kate. I couldn’t find any information about what she has been doing since she graduated from Norland College. From 2014, when she was first appointed: “William and Kate met her before she was appointed and a Kensington Palace spokesman said the royal couple were 'happy and delighted she's come on board'. Speaking about the tour of New Zealand and Australia he added: 'When they're out and about she will be looking after Prince George as she's been doing for the last couple of weeks.' Earlier this month it was revealed that the couple had chosen Ms Borrallo, who was described as a 'Spanish supernanny' to help them care for baby George. The nanny, thought to be in her mid-thirties, is believed to have worked for high-society families for two decades” Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2585389/Spanish-supernanny-hired-Duke-Duchess-Cambridge-look-Prince-George-named-Maria-Teresa-Turrion-Borrallo.html#ixzz3qjchZWxy She was actually in her mid-forties at the time! I guess that the Cambridges wanted someone with experience as opposed to a recent Norland graduate, I wonder who those high-society families are? Perhaps they don’t want any publicity, although I would have expected at least a few tweets by someone who saw her in action by now. It is still all a bit of a mystery.
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 31, 2017 17:33:35 GMT
The Cambridges’ nannies: an ever-changing story
Apologies for the length of the post even when split into two parts, but timelines and key extracts from articles help us to see patterns and make connections, even though the journalists may have been speculating and making assumptions in the absence of hard information. Something seems not quite right about all this. Part 1 Prince George July 2013 No nanny yet, just a busy multi-tasker
"No nanny, but Duchess of Cambridge will have key servant on hand SHE has so far resisted hiring a nanny but the Duchess of Cambridge does have a mother’s help. The couple have drafted in a key servant to help them look after Prince George: their housekeeper. Antonella Fresolone, who the Sunday Express exclusively revealed had been hired as the couple’s “right-hand woman” in May, was spotted decamping to Bucklebury, Berkshire, with the new family of three last Wednesday. William, Kate and their son are staying with Michael and Carole Middleton at their £4.7million Georgian Grade II listed mansion while the renovations at their new home at Kensington Palace near completion. Although the couple have so far shunned a large entourage, it seems they could not do without their Italian multitasker, who was poached from Buckingham Palace, where she worked for 13 years as one of the Queen’s three top housemaids. The 42-year-old childless spinster beat fierce competition for her £23,000-a-year position overseeing the Cambridge’s domestic affairs. Her duties include cleaning, laundry, running errands and preparing basic meals; making her the perfect mother’s help for Kate as she gets to grips with round-the-clock feeds and the dirty nappies. She even walks the couple’s ****er spaniel Lupo.” recentworldnews.org/news/royal/417894/PICTURE-EXCLUSIVE-No-nanny-but-Duchess-of-Cambridge-will-have-key-servant-on-hand Is that all she does? This seems more like slavery than service to me. September 2013 That didn’t last long: Prince William’s former nanny arrives
“The Duchess of Cambridge made a pit stop at a McDonald's situated at a roadside station en route to Kensington Palace from Anglesey, accompanied by Prince George and Prince William's former nanny, Jessie Webb. There were reports in the media suggesting the Cambridges had hired 71-year-old Ms. Webb to look after little George which were obviously spot on. William and Harry obviously had a very positive experience with her and feel she's the perfect choice for the role.” hrhduchesskate.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/kates-mcdonalds-stop-this-weeks-calendar.html Jan 2014 A new nanny is needed now
"The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are searching for a new nanny to take on their tour of New Zealand and Australia. Their current nanny, Jessie Webb – who looked after Prince William when he was a child – has reached the end of her contract. According to sources close to the couple, Mrs Webb, 71, came out of retirement to look after Prince George on the condition that she would work only for three months. It took a lot of persuading to get Jessie to take the job in the first place, but she loves William and wanted to help out,’ said a source. ‘I can’t imagine that she will want to be travelling around the world at her age. If she does, she will need an assistant.’ The Duke and Duchess did not hire a maternity nurse after George’s birth last July. Instead the couple moved into the Middleton family home in Berkshire so that Kate’s mother, Carole, could help out. When they moved to Kensington Palace last September, they persuaded Mrs Webb to join their household. It had been rumoured that Carole Middleton could join the tour Down Under to help look after George. However, aides insist that will not be the case." Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2537907/Duke-Duchess-Cambridge-seek-new-nanny-trip-Down-Under-William-Kate-looking-replacement-Jessie-Webbs-contract-runs-out.html#ixzz3tiTtHqDG It sounds reasonable that someone who is 71 would not feel up to going on this tour of Australia and New Zealand. March 2014: Spanish Norland Nanny arrives
"The new 'Spanish supernanny' hired by the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge to help them look after Prince George has been named as Maria Teresa Turrion Borrallo. William and Kate are said to be 'delighted' that the full-time nanny has decided to join their royal household The couple's new employee will be joining them and their young son on their forthcoming tour of Australia and New Zealand - and she will have been specially trained in self defence as well as how to 'skid pan' a car in poor weather conditions." Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2585389/Spanish-supernanny-hired-Duke-Duchess-Cambridge-look-Prince-George-named-Maria-Teresa-Turrion-Borrallo.html#ixzz3sghoyzoB
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Post by UnseenI on Oct 31, 2017 17:36:09 GMT
Nannies Part 2: Princess Charlotte Feb 2015 They are not getting a second nanny
“Duchess of Cambridge, née Kate Middleton, and her husband Prince William have no plans to hire a maternity nurse, HELLO! magazine can exclusively reveal. When Kate, who is seven months pregnant, gives birth in April, it is believed that, contrary to previous reports, the couple will defy royal tradition by not seeking the help of a second nanny. Instead, William and Kate will take on the baby duties themselves and bond with their new arrival, just as they did in the early hands-on days with their firstborn Prince George… "There are no plans to advertise for a nanny or a maternity nurse."” us.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2015021923543/kate-middleton-no-plans-nanny-baby/# May 2015 They ARE getting a second (temporary?) nanny
“They already have a full-time nanny and plenty of help from the Middletons, but the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge seem set to hire another temporary nanny to help them through the first weeks of their new baby’s life. The couple were determined to manage without professional help when Prince George was born, but he was not a good sleeper and the Duchess became exhausted after countless sleepless nights. They eventually accepted they needed help, and hired Spaniard Maria Borrallo from the world-famous Norland nanny agency when Prince George was seven months old. This time around, they have reportedly made arrangements through Norland for a maternity nurse to work full-time for at least three months to get them through the most difficult period of their new baby’s life.” www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/royal-baby/11579056/Royal-princess-Duke-and-Duchess-set-to-hire-second-nanny-to-help-with-new-princess.htmlI am wondering whether the announcements about doing it all themselves were another example of people wanting approval for something that sounds good but is never actually delivered. Or perhaps they hoped to keep it all in the family because they didn’t want to let outsiders get too close to the children and see what they were up to – dyeing Prince George’s hair for example. Maybe they just found out the hard way that dealing with babies and small children is too much like hard work.
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 2, 2017 6:19:02 GMT
Queen Victoria, King Edward VII and the Munshi again
The more I learn about Prince Albert, the more I like the sound of him. The opposite applies to his eldest son Prince Albert Edward, known as Bertie and later King Edward VII. Bertie made an extensive tour of India in 1875/76, and was appalled by the way the natives were treated and spoken to and about by their British masters. Yet, as we have seen in a previous post, he himself behaved badly towards an Indian after Queen Victoria died. Shortly after her funeral, he ordered Abdul Karim to return to India and all the letters she had written to Karim to be taken away from him and burned. It seems that Edward and Alexandra resented the close relationship that the odd couple had had. I had barely heard of Abdul Karim; I had no idea that he had been so influential in Queen Victoria‘s life. The Daily Mail is full of background information and revelations about this relationship. Queen Victoria displayed extreme favouritism towards her Indian servant. She gave Karim two houses and had a cottage built for him. He cooked curries for her and taught her the Hindu language. She used to write to him several times a day. Like John Brown and Benjamin Disraeli before him, he gave her some personal attention and helped to alleviate her loneliness. He was her closest companion. All this generated much ill feeling in many circles - politicians, servants, courtiers and the royal family. The Prince of Wales was furious with his mother because of all the favours she showered on Karim. When Victoria died, it was payback time.
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 2, 2017 6:21:08 GMT
Victoria and Abdul
Victoria & Abdul is the sequel to the 1997 film Mrs Brown; it was released in September. The story is about the relationship between the aged Queen Victoria and her young Indian servant Abdul Karim, a munshi or clerk. Dame Judi Dench plays Queen Victoria once again, and the Prince of Wales is played by Eddie Izzard, which seems a bizarre choice. No Antony Sher this time: Benjamin Disraeli was dead by then. I wonder why there is so much interest in Queen Victoria now. Maybe it is just that there is a lot of money in it… Judi Dench as Victoria in the new film: The book that the film Victoria and Abdul is based on:
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 3, 2017 7:05:00 GMT
The Queen Mother and her butler William Tallon
The Queen Mother showed great favouritism towards her butler William Tallon, or Billy. He was her confidant and close friend. They looked like a couple who had been married for a long time. She refused to listen to the concerns of senior palace staff that he was a security risk and a cause of contention among his fellow servants. He could do nothing wrong in her eyes. She gave him a cottage in the grounds at Clarence House for his personal use. It sounds similar to the relationships that Queen Victoria had, except that there was a lot less dignity and a lot more fun in it. She used to play George Gershwin’s songs on the gramophone over and over again and they would dance together. Sometimes, after having had a lot to drink, he would do a camp version of a Scottish sword dance that made her cry with laughter. He used to wear her flowery hats. As always, Tallon was resented in some circles. He said this about the time he became distraught when the Queen Mother became very frail and he was not permitted to see her: “…the truth is some members of the Royal household enjoyed my unhappiness. It was time for their revenge. They knew the Queen Mother could no longer protect me so the knives were out. I suppose I was silly not to have known it would happen.” He made many enemies, some powerful; it was not just other royal servants who had a grudge against him. He had of his own volition pushed Princess Margaret in her wheelchair to the gates of Clarence House. She looked dreadful, and his action was resented. The Queen is said to have taken a dim view of this episode, which brought her sister’s frail condition and the decline in her appearance to the attention of the public. When the Queen Mother died, it was payback time. The odd couple in 1988:
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 3, 2017 7:07:45 GMT
William Tallon after the Queen Mother’s death
Queen Victoria’s munshi Abdul Karim, who was evicted from his lofty, privileged position on the death of his protector, is reported to have died a broken man. He may not be the only royal servant to have ended up like that. William Tallon was devastated by the loss of someone he had been with for around 50 years. He was dismissed; he lost his privileged lifestyle and what he had been led to believe was his home for life. He had to live on a small income. He was found lying drunk in a gutter on one occasion. The actions taken against him immediately after the Queen Mother’s death were just the first phase of the operation. He died in 2007, five years after the Queen Mother’s death. That was the signal for the start of the next phase: “Within days of Billy Tallon’s death in November 2007, a small group of men were seen entering his flat in Kennington, South London. All Billy’s possessions were boxed up and put in storage. There is no proof that things went missing, but the speed with which events occurred shocked his friends, one of whom said: ‘It was all very odd. Would you expect your former employer to visit your house and go through your things? We don’t know for sure, but that’s what we think happened – the Royal household had sent a team to go through Billy’s possessions before they were sold...’ Billy often told me he wanted to save his best stories for publication. The Royals, he explained, are very careful about what they say and do. But Billy knew their secrets… A close friend of Billy’s said: ‘He was definitely writing something, which is perhaps why so many odd things happened after he died. ‘I’m sure that in the same way that someone probably destroyed the Queen Mother’s instructions that Billy should be allowed to stay on at Gate Lodge, they also destroyed whatever it was he had written about his life at Clarence House… When, some months after his funeral, Billy’s possessions came up for auction at a provincial sale room in Colchester, Essex, they represented just a small part of his possessions. I know that because I visited the flat regularly. Another oddity is that not a scrap of written material survived the visit by the unidentified team of young men seen visiting his apartment, including the memoir he was thought to be writing – and especially his ‘black book’, as his diary was known.” Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3005715/Jealous-courtiers-took-vicious-revenge-Backstairs-Billy-Queen-Mothers-favourite-servant.html#ixzz4xIapjoi2 There are suggestions that he was too clever to leave anything for his enemies to find and that it was friends who took his papers and possessions for safe-keeping, but to me it looks like yet another example of revenge and erasure of the evidence. William Tallon in happier times:
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 3, 2017 17:17:38 GMT
Yet more history laundering and letter burning by the royals
Many more royal papers and letters have gone forever, as an extract from an interesting articleshows: “Now, about the letters which you wrote to me the other day, Victoria replied to her eldest daughter, the Crown Princess of Prussia, in March 1874. I am not for burning them except any of a nature to affect any of the family painfully . . . I am much against destroying important letters, as I every day see the necessity of reference. But before she died in 1901, Victoria instructed her youngest daughter Beatrice to rewrite the journal the Queen had kept almost daily since adolescence, deleting similarly painful passages. The original was to be destroyed. For 30 years, Beatrice laboured at her task, burning each volume of the journal as she proceeded. Although the sanitised version ran to 111 volumes, it is a fraction of what once existed. Where Beatrice literally blazed a trail, other courtiers followed. Lord Knollys, Private Secretary to Edward VII (1901-10), obeyed Queen Alexandra’s wishes and destroyed virtually all the late King's personal papers. His younger sister Charlotte performed the same service for Alexandra when she died in 1925. For several days, the smoke could be seen billowing from the chimneys of Sandringham House, where Alexandra had lived in widowhood.“ This makes it sound like a funeral pyre, or a burnt offering.
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 4, 2017 16:44:46 GMT
Angela Kelly: dressmaker and PA to the Queen
I mentioned Angela Kelly in the Next Monarch thread as someone who might receive the same treatment that Abdul Karim and William Tallon did when their protectors died. I did this because I remembered posting about her close relationship with the Queen on the David Icke forum in 2013, since when I forgot all about her. I have just found some more relevant information about this person of interest that confirms my recent theory. First, my original post: David Icke said that the name 'Kelly' is significant. Many posters have written about well known examples such as Dr. David Kelly and Jimmy Savile's mother Agnes Kelly. It may not mean much that Peter Philips, grandson of the Queen, married Autumn Kelly in 2008, but there is someone who is much closer to the heart of the Royal Family. This story seems a little strange to me: "Europe's longest-serving living monarch, and Angela Kelly, born in a terraced Liverpool council house, have forged a uniquely close mistress-servant relationship...As the Queen's personal assistant and 'gatekeeper', Angela Kelly has forged a uniquely close connection with the monarch over the past 14 years...Miss Kelly started working for the Queen by chance. In October 1992, she was housekeeper to Sir Christopher Mallaby, who was British Ambassador to Germany. When the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh visited his house in Berlin during an official visit, they got chatting to Miss Kelly, who told the Queen of her plans to return to Britain. Months later, Miss Kelly received a call offering her a job as one of the Queen's dressers. She started in 1993...For the past five years, Miss Kelly has not only helped the Queen to choose her designer clothes, she has also designed clothes under the Kelly & Pordum label. "I design the clothes and Alison Pordum and our team make them. It all started because we designed one or two things for the Queen which she liked, and one thing led to another"...Last year, when the Queen turned 80, she made Miss Kelly a member of the Royal Victorian Order." www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...jestys-PA.htmlGatekeeper? That sounds a bit sinister to me! The clothes that Angela Kelly designs are not bad, especially the hats. She was responsible for the blue & orange outfit that the Queen wore when she visited the victims of the Manchester bombing, and the ‘EU hat’ she wore to the State Opening of Parliament. Angela Kelly in the shade of blue that has generated a good few posts:
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 4, 2017 16:46:12 GMT
Angela Kelly, the Queen’s sister
My second post from 2013 about Angela Kelly: It seems familiar; it reminds me of Jimmy Savile in that it is all accepted and taken for granted without any judgements being made. "London - The Queen’s trusted dresser and PA Angela Kelly is said to be writing a book on the royal that will likely focus on the monarch’s preference for fuchsia frocks rather than containing royal secrets. Dressing The Queen: The Jubilee Wardrobe has raised a few eyebrows, not least because Angela Kelly seems to have unprecedented permission from Her Majesty to do so. “Everyone is talking about Angela and her book,” the Daily Express quoted a royal insider as saying. “ No one can comprehend how she’s got away with it,” the insider said. The fact is, Kelly is not an average royal flunky. The 60-year-old divorcee grandmother is known as one of the Queen’s very closest confidantes. She sees the Queen every day, travels on official trips with her, is responsible for how the monarch looks on royal duties and organises her private diary. What’s more - she and the Queen speak about “anything and everything” and Kelly is reputed to give the monarch pieces of celebrity gossip. “ We could be sisters,” the Queen once told her while a friend of the family, Lady Anne Glenconner, once observed that when the two are together “there is lots of laughter”. In the only interview she has ever given, back in 2007, Kelly herself had said that she “adores” the sovereign. It has been two decades since the pair met. Kelly, a former member of the Women’s Royal Army Corps, was working as housekeeper to the British ambassador to Germany, Sir Christopher Mallaby, when the Queen and Prince Philip came on an official visit to Berlin in 1992." www.indiavision.com/news/arti...tional/356701/Maybe there was a big gap in the Queen’s life when she first met Angela Kelly, who became the Queen’s first ever personal assistant in 2001. Maybe this position was created just for her.
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 4, 2017 16:49:00 GMT
Angela Kelly and the affair of the Queen’s unfilled hot water bottle
There is a really funny story from 2014 in an article in the Daily Mail. Here are the headlines: “The Queen's missing hot water bottle and why knives are out for her minder: Scouse docker's daughter's growing power has sparked a mutiny below stairs Angela Kelly was born the daughter of a gatekeeper at Liverpool's docks Today she is the Curator to the Queen for ‘International Travellerellery, Insignia and Wardrobe’ The Queen sees Mrs Kelly as a problem solver in her advancing years However Mrs Kelly has become unpopular among staff for her harsh rules” Gatekeeper and daughter of a gatekeeper? That’s quite a coincidence. “Bedtime for the Queen on recent chilly spring evenings has not been complete without one of her most cherished pleasures — a hot water bottle, placed snugly between the silken sheets. Imagine Her Majesty’s shock, on retiring to her large first-floor bedroom overlooking the gardens at Buckingham Palace just the other evening, to find her bed ice-cold. No bottle.Instead, it was lying to one side and was unfilled, so the Queen, who has always been a practical sort, made a hot water bottle for herself.” Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2624790/The-Queens-missing-hot-water-bottle-knives-minder-Scouse-dockers-daughters-growing-power-sparked-mutiny-stairs.html#ixzz4xTP9ymvf So the Queen filled her hot water bottle herself? That is more than her mother ever did: her butler William Tallon had to fetch everything for her, even if it was on a table next to her. The Queen thought it was all a joke when she told Angela about it, but Angela obviously came down heavily on the guilty party. Melani, the housemaid who forgot to fill the bottle, soon left her post, presumably because Angela Kelly came down hard on her: “There is much sadness and anger below stairs about the departure of Melani, a popular figure who was married recently and was hoping to move into a grace-and-favour staff flat at the Palace mews with her new husband. But the anger is not directed against the Queen, who is not being blamed for Melani’s unexpected departure. It is focused on Mrs Kelly, the Queen’s personal assistant and senior dresser.” Assuming that this story is true – I would have expected them to have central heating – I wonder who leaked it. I understand that Angela Kelly may want everything to go very smoothly and be trying to protect the Queen from inconvenience and stress caused by unexpected problems, but she is making enemies and storing up trouble for herself.
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 5, 2017 8:15:05 GMT
Angela Kelly: feuding and fighting
‘Sources’ and ‘insiders’ have been telling tales about Angela Kelly: “The close relationship she has developed with the monarch in recent years has now evolved even further, giving her extraordinary influence over who is chosen to work closely with the Queen, and — just as importantly — who is not… Beverley Jones, who has worked under Angela Kelly as one of the Queen’s dressers for the past 12 years, has also been moved to other duties. Bev, as she is known, held the same role for many years to the Queen Mother, who was very fond of her. She was offered a post on the Queen’s floor at Buckingham Palace after the Queen Mother’s death in 2002. Now, however, she is to be found in the linen pantry, pressing tea-towels and organising dry cleaning after being moved to the housekeeping department.” What a comedown! Angela Kelly may not want people she sees as rivals to get too close to the Queen. She has also been involved with personal feuds and fights: “…her relationships with others around the Queen have not been smooth. Her partnership with fellow dressmaker Alison Pordum broke up some four years ago after reports of a ‘verbal confrontation’ between the two. On another occasion, royal protection officers were said to have had to intervene to separate Angela from housemaid Hannah Coullett, whom she accused of seeing her then boyfriend, pastry chef Tony Ferriroli. The women were pulled apart as they grappled with one another at the servants’ entrance to the Palace. When, later, she had a bust-up with security officials over her Palace pass, she acquired a new nickname. Staff are known by their initials: fiery Angela, who is AK, instantly became AK47. None of this troubles the Queen.” Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2624790/The-Queens-missing-hot-water-bottle-knives-minder-Scouse-dockers-daughters-growing-power-sparked-mutiny-stairs.html#ixzz4xUXcDiYm Of course it doesn’t trouble the Queen. The actions of favourites, no matter how outrageous, never do.
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 5, 2017 16:26:29 GMT
King George VI was starved as a baby by his nanny
A point I made several times on the old CC forum is that I see it as a very big warning signal when people say that they have dedicated their life to a cause or when they never take time off from their work. I kept on saying this because I think it is very important. I said it in connection with peace activists, the head of a charity, political activists, cult members ... and nannies. Something wasn’t right; something sinister was going on below the surface in these cases. The Geldofs’ nanny was one of the people of interest in this connection; the Cambridge’s Spanish nanny looks like another. I have just found an article that gives yet another example of a nanny, or head nurse, who never took time off from her job of caring for the baby Princes Edward and Albert, the future kings Edward VIII and George VI. It is yet another example of what goes on behind the impressive façade: “Barely paying attention to them, it took her (the future Queen Mary) three years before she or husband observed that their second born was being periodically starved by his nanny… After three years of royal service, in which Sarah Bradford states in Elizabeth R that this nanny didn’t have a single day off, she finally collapsed with a nervous breakdown, was removed from service, and never heard from again. The damage she had wrought on the royal nursery, and the manner in which she’d abused Albert, were discovered and corrected. Unfortunately for the (then) Duke of York’s second born, the damage had been done. Not only did he spend the rest of his life suffering periodically from digestive problems, but the speech impediment that he so famously suffered from was undoubtedly partly rooted in the nightmare that was his early childhood.” www.royalfoibles.com/the-tragic-childhood-of-a-spare-apparent/This is dreadful. Even Rudyard Kipling’s persecutor in the House of Desolation fed him adequately. The unfortunate young Prince Albert as a baby:
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 5, 2017 16:30:02 GMT
More about the little Windsor princes’ abusive nanny
From the article where I first learned about this horrible episode in the early lives of two future kings: “The story of this Mary Poppins from hell still remains somewhat mysterious to most royal historians. To this day, the author has yet to uncover a published source that reveals her name. What is known about her is that she was the primary nanny the (then) Duke and Duchess of York put in charge of caring for their two eldest sons when they were infants. While this woman occasionally abused Prince Edward, usually by savagely pinching him and Prince Albert just before they saw their parents so the boys would cry and George and Mary would infuriatingly order them sent back to the nursery, she nonetheless was respectful enough of his position as the future king to feed him properly. She felt no such regard for his little brother. Either out of punishment, or simply because she constantly forgot, she went long periods of time without feeding Prince Albert. As Lady Colin Campbell observes in her biography Prince Albert’s future wife, The Queen Mother, while his brother was obsessed over by this woman, none of Albert’s behavior was either acknowledged nor rewarded. Early childhood photos of him tell their own story. He appears unusually thin, small and sickly. This condition didn’t occur naturally.” www.royalfoibles.com/the-tragic-childhood-of-a-spare-apparent/It is not easy to determine the established facts of this sad case. Accounts vary and contain speculation, assumptions, hearsay and embellishments. In the absence of available information, people have used their imaginations to fill some gaps. There is a little more information available about this nurse/nanny, who may have been called Mary Peters. Her husband had deserted her and she had no children of her own. She was taken on in 1894 when Prince Edward was born; she came to the royal family in with good references from the Duke and Duchess of Newcastle. She may have tried to appropriate Prince Edward and resented the arrival of Prince Albert in 1895. She got away with cruelty and neglect for years. Such people often operate behind a smokescreen, so no one notices anything untoward. It was the expression of concerns by a new under-nurse - who was brought in to care for the new baby Princess Mary - about the way the head nurse was treating the two little princes that eventually led to her dismissal in 1897, and it may have been the dismissal that caused her breakdown. Princes Edward and Albert as infants, with their newborn sister Mary:
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 6, 2017 6:10:13 GMT
Royal nanny dismissed by the Queen for cancelling a pudding
Yes, she countermanded the Queen’s pudding order! She was also said to be too strict with the young Charles and Anne. From 1987: “Helen Lightbody, the royal nanny fired by Queen Elizabeth II because she overruled a dessert the queen ordered for Prince Charles' dinner more than 30 years ago, has died in a Scottish nursing home, Buckingham Palace said. She was 79. The palace report said Miss Lightbody died in Hawick last Saturday. The Scottish-born nanny, daughter of an Edinburgh textile worker, ran the palace nursery for eight years from 1948, when Charles was a month old, until she left in 1956. After that incident, she came to be known as "No-Nonsense Lightbody." It was reported at the time that the queen had added a special dessert to the royal menu one day but Miss Lightbody had crossed out the order. Miss Lightbody, who reportedly had been warned about being too stern with Charles, then 7, and his younger sister, Anne, 6, was dismissed and returned to Scotland with a pension of $14 a week. Charles continued to visit Miss Lightbody after she had left the palace. She was invited in 1969 to his investiture as Prince of Wales and to his 21st birthday party. According to the palace report the queen sent a message of sympathy to Miss Lightbody's family on hearing of her death.” articles.latimes.com/1987-03-21/news/mn-4401_1_buckingham-palaceI have to assume that this anecdote is true. How petty if it is – unless perhaps it was the last straw, or just a pretext for dismissing the nurse/nanny. She sounds like one of those totally dedicated people with little or no life of their own – and look where it gets you. These people get very close to the royal family, but is it worth it? Here they all are together:
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 6, 2017 17:11:52 GMT
Edward VII’s nurse killed her six children
I came across this case when investigating Esher and Claremont House in connection with some modern-day murders and posted about it in March 2016, long before I knew anything about some of the other royal nurse/nanny horror stories. Esher was the scene of a dreadful crime in 1854, when Mary Ann Brough killed her six children by cutting their throats. She then cut her own throat, but survived. She was a celebrity of the time, and the subject of much ‘mad or bad’, depraved or diseased, discussion. Both she and her husband had been in royal service. She was nurse to the new baby who became King Edward VII: “…the murderess had indeed served as the wet nurse to Albert Edward, Prince of Wales after his birth on November 9th, 1841… In all likelihood, Mary Ann obtained her position in the royal household through her husband: George Brough had been in the service of Prince Leopold, the widower of Princess Charlotte of Wales, and uncle to Queen Victoria, during Leopold’s years at Claremont House. By 1854, George Brough worked as keeper of the ponds and park at Claremont, situated about a mile away from Esher, the scene of the tragedy. Although Mary Ann served as wet nurse for the Prince of Wales from his birth, she ultimately lost her position. The reasons for this are unclear. In a report on the trial, the Tasmanian newspaper, The Courier claimed that: “…she was discharged for disobeying orders, first in receiving visits from her husband, and next for being caught in the act of drinking ardent spirits.” However, in her excellent biography, Queen Victoria, Born to Succeed, Elizabeth Longford explains, “…Mary Ann Brough…had become morose and ‘stupid’… Mary Ann Brough was acquitted of murder and consigned to the insane asylum at Bethlehem, commonly known as Bedlam. There she was detained at her majesty’s pleasure. Just seven years later in March of 1861, Mary Ann Brough died, still resident at Bedlam. Brough’s familicide was a tragedy for her family, a scandal for Queen Victoria and the royal court, but a career making case for Forbes Winslow and his fellow alienists.” Much more here: www.ultimatehistoryproject.com/mary-ann-brough.htmlMary Ann had lost some babies over the years, may have been badly affected by being dismissed from royal service, was not well and was thought to have been distraught because her husband had recently left her and was going to apply for custody of the children. Edward VII as a baby:
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 8, 2017 5:53:21 GMT
The suicidal royal governess who was set up by the ruthless Queen Mother
Who writes the script for these royal soap operas! The ‘spin’ for this sad story was that governess Marion Crawford betrayed the royal family’s trust by publishing accounts of her life with the two little princesses Elizabeth and Margaret. The reality is that she was authorised and encouraged to produce the first magazine articles as a PR exercise, so long as they were published anonymously; unfortunately they were issued in Miss Crawford’s name. She also wrote a book about the two little princesses. For these writings, she was cast into the outer darkness in revenge by the furious Queen Mother. She was frozen out; neither of the princesses ever spoke to her again. She lost her grace and favour cottage, where many members of the royal family had frequently visited her. Her past sacrifices and dedication and life on hold – to avoid inconveniencing her employers she had endlessly delayed her marriage, which perhaps was why she had no children of her own - meant nothing. Just like the maid who forgot to fill the Queen’s hot water bottle and the nanny who cancelled the dessert, one false step and she was out. The fact that her writing was all sugar and treacle with no embarrassing revelations was not relevant. Like others in a similar position, she was devastated and unable to cut her losses and move on with her life. She became depressed and suicidal, always longing for what she had lost. Here she is with her two charges in happier days: “Practically a parent: Marion Crawford, left, joined the royal household as Governess, a role that incorporated private tutoring, some of the duties of a nanny and as a companion to the princesses Elizabeth, middle, and Margaret, right”
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 8, 2017 5:55:13 GMT
More about the Marion Crawford case
There are many accounts, some differing in the details, of Marion Crawford and her association with the royal family. It is the subsequent 40 or so years of depression and an empty life that has most relevance here, but the background story to her banishment shows how devious the Queen Mother was: “Now held by Crawford's solicitor, the private papers show that the Queen Mother was secretly involved in a government plan to sell anecdotes about her daughters' childhood to an American magazine - a publicity stunt for which the nanny was pilloried for the rest of her life... Crawford, or 'Crawfie' as the princesses Elizabeth and Margaret both knew her, was an intimate companion of the royal family for 17 years, but was ostracised for supposedly selling her story to the press without the permission of her former employers. In fact, the deal was brokered with the Palace by the Foreign Office, who believed the magazine articles would be good for Anglo-American relations. Childless and separated in later life from the famous sisters she had cared for, Crawfie attempted to commit suicide twice, nearly succeeding in the late Eighties. She eventually succumbed to cancer and died alone in a nursing home - but not before passing on a number of key documents to her solicitor, Bruce Russell, with instructions that they should be released once they could no longer hurt those involved.” www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/jun/25/monarchy.vanessathorpeOf course Crawfie may well have become very attached to her charges and fond of the Queen Mother too, but her reaction to the cutting off of all contact seems extreme. It looks like separation anxiety or withdrawal symptoms. She behaved like someone who waits forlornly outside the locked gates of the paradise from which they have been expelled: she bought a house very close to Balmoral and watched as the royal family drove past, never once stopping to visit her. One of her suicide notes said: "The world has passed me by and I can't bear those I love to pass me by on the road.“ Another picture of Crawfie (on the right) and the young princesses:
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 9, 2017 6:14:58 GMT
Petty behaviour upstairs and downstairs
Two mildly amusing anecdotes that show outsiders what they are missing! Paul Burrell, Princess Diana’s butler, said that Princess Margaret forbade her staff to watch the royal television set at Balmoral while she was out. He and his fellow servants watched it anyway to pass the time while she was away, quickly switching it off when they heard her coming back. When she came into the room, she would suspiciously feel the back of the TV to check if it was still hot. She complained that the staff had been watching it to the Queen, who ignored the breaking of her sister’s rules. One allegation made against William Tallon, the Queen Mother’s butler, is that he would shake a vase of flowers so that their petals were scattered everywhere, then point this out to her as evidence that the other servants were not cleaning properly! No wonder some of them resented him. This story makes me wonder whether that maid really did fill the Queen’s hot water bottle and someone emptied it to get her into trouble ... There is not much loyalty left. People tell and sell their anecdotes as there is a market for royal scandals, even for stories about petty behaviour. Paul Burrell with one of his tell-all books, which Princes William and Harry saw as a betrayal:
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 10, 2017 7:26:05 GMT
Sarah Duchess of York’s dresser murdered her boyfriend
Extreme social climber Jane Andrews was dresser, aide and confidante to Sarah Ferguson for 9 years. She was made redundant in 1997, officially as part of a cost-cutting exercise. It is said that this affected her very deeply; she lost her status, identity and reason for existing. Any other jobs seemed like a big come-down. Her boyfriend, a wealthy businessman, refused to marry her; in 2001, she killed him in his sleep by stabbing him with a kitchen knife. She served 14 years in prison, and has now been released, much to the outrage of the murdered man’s family. Jane Andrews with Fergie in Washington in 1994. Her smile looks artificial to me:
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 10, 2017 18:21:58 GMT
Jane Andrews, her dismissal and the Duchess of York
The official story is that dresser Jane Andrews was made redundant as part of a cost-cutting exercise. This could well be a cover story. She was not a newcomer and was said to have got on extremely well with Fergie; surely there were others more suitable for redundancy. Maybe she had said or done something wrong or unacceptable and offended Fergie; maybe Fergie was ordered to get rid of her. There are allegations of money and jewellery being stolen from Fergie. When people are known to have lied, as Jane Andrews has, nothing they say can be relied on. However, knowing how ruthless the royal family can be, what Jane said about Fergie could well be true: “Andrews was devastated and sank into a deep depression, losing a substantial amount of weight. She felt that she had been badly treated by the Duchess, who did not tell her the news in person and who, she alleges, only a few weeks before had told her, "I'll never get rid of you, you're with me for life." She had some difficulties finding other employment, but eventually secured a position working in the silver department of the Knightsbridge jewellers Annabel Jones.” www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2003/aug/30/weekend7.weekend1Maybe Fergie had started to feel that something was wrong. There are reports that Jane began to ape her royal mistress, imitating her accent, dressing in similar clothes and even dyeing her hair red. "They were best friends, they were like Tweedledum and Tweedledee. Her devotion to Fergie was downright loopy." This reminds me of Angela Kelly, ‘sister’ to the Queen. With her royal employer in 1995:
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 10, 2017 18:24:12 GMT
Shattered lives and the royal family
The examples of people, some of them killers, who were devastated by being dismissed make me wonder whether some of them were borderline personalities who were pushed over the edge by perceived rejection and banishment to the outer darkness. There is also the question of what effect working for the royal family has on people. Are their servants badly affected by the lifestyle and atmosphere in the royal residences? Do they get addicted to living in reflected glory? When dismissed, are they unable to adapt to their relatively humble and obscure people and places of origin after experiencing life with the royals? Do they feel that they have lost everything that made their lives worth living? I also wonder whether the royal family attracts unbalanced people. Jane Andrews got her position with Fergie after responding to an anonymous advertisement in The Lady. Why wasn’t there a better screening process? She may at first seem like yet another victim of the royal family, but her problems started long before she got involved with them: “Throughout her teenage years, Andrews struggled with various psychological problems, including depression, panic attacks and an eating disorder. At the age of 15, she attempted suicide by overdose after her mother discovered her truancy. Two years later at age 17, she became pregnant and had an abortion, which she stated was a traumatising experience” – from WiKi Maybe she saw her position with Fergie as some kind of compensation for what she had been through. Maybe she saw marriage with a rich man as part compensation for what she had lost. Jane Andrews with the man she murdered. Again, her smile looks completely false:
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 11, 2017 6:29:07 GMT
Royal employees need to prepare for the worst
Even the Queen’s favourite Angela Kelly would be wise to think of the future. “‘Angela’s beady eye is on everything that is done for Her Majesty, making sure everything is perfect,’ says one below-stairs figure.” “Often, when at Windsor, the Queen will say she is going out for a walk. Staff know that this means she will be heading in the direction of Frogmore, where Angela, a mother and grandmother, lives alone in a grace and favour home. ‘They like to chat — and they do it often,’ says a courtier.” Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2624790/The-Queens-missing-hot-water-bottle-knives-minder-Scouse-dockers-daughters-growing-power-sparked-mutiny-stairs.html#ixzz4xUGtpEAK If I were in Angela Kelly’s position, I would be realistic not complacent; I would not trust the royals to deliver on any promises they might have made. I would have plans A, B and C ready to go, with any necessary advance preparations completed. These plans would be based on cases from the past, cases such as have been described on here. Plan A would cover procedures to follow after an unexpected dismissal. As we have seen, people can be fired even after years of loyal service. They may lose everything, including the grace and favour homes. Plan B would cover procedures to follow after the sad event of the Queen’s death. Eviction and banishment of favourites often happens. Look at what happened to butler William Tallon after the Queen Mother died. Plan C would ensure that there was nothing left lying around to be confiscated after the employee’s own death. Papers, presents...anything that the royals might want back or want destroyed should be stored in a safe place.
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 11, 2017 18:02:56 GMT
A damning portrait of the future King Edward VIII
Much of the Prince of Wales’ popularity with the people was based on a glamorous, romantic façade and public image. The real man was very different, not so much a Prince Charming as a Prince Charmless as the DM put it. Aide Sir Alan Lascelles started by having great admiration and affection for the Prince of Wales when he first came to work for him in 1920; by 1927 he was disillusioned and despairing. He said to Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin: 'You know, sometimes when I am waiting to get the result of some point-to point in which he is riding, I can't help thinking that the best thing that could happen to him, and to the country, would be for him to break his neck.' 'God forgive me,' said SB. 'I have often thought the same.' Sir Alan felt that he had wasted some of the best years of his life in service to a vulgar and selfish man who had: “...no comprehension of the ordinary axioms of rational, or ethical, behaviour; fundamental ideas of duty, dignity and self-sacrifice had no meaning for him.” He gives a long list of the Prince of Wales’ deficiencies, as have other people who knew him. Their words cannot be discounted; they were not republicans or spiteful and envious people who could not get into the right circles. “...so isolated was he in the world of his own desires that I do not think he ever felt affection - absolute, objective affection - for any living being, not excluding the members of his own family.” Sir Alan alleges that the future Edward VIII suffered from arrested development and never made it past the psychological age of 17 or so. After reading about his behaviour, I wouldn’t be surprised. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-417388/Prince-Charmless-A-****ing-portrait-Edward-VIII.html#ixzz4y6TPQjnL
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 12, 2017 6:45:24 GMT
Edward VIII was seen by many people as a modern, 'unstuffy' golden boy. He travelled a lot on his father's behalf and attracted a lot of positive attention. That was then. The majority view now is that Wallis Simpson did this country a big favour by making him so obsessed with her that he abdicated rather than lose her.
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 12, 2017 7:20:59 GMT
Edward VIII aka David the darling of the dominions
The DM gets it right: it was all a façade. Some of the details of the misery and desperation below the surface remind me of Princess Diana and her apparent happiness that concealed despair. “He was the first Royal sex symbol of the modern age. The wistful features of the Prince of Wales adorned the bedside tables and dormitory walls of thousands of schoolgirls and young women across Britain and the Empire. He may have sent his austere father, King George V, into despair but Prince Edward – David to his family – was the undisputed darling of the dominions. However, they were worshipping a false god. It was all a monstrous charade played out before an innocent public. The immovable reality was that the prince did not believe either in himself or in his future position as sovereign. In moments of melancholy and self-doubt, which were frequent, he felt he was living a lie, trying to match an image that bore no relation to the real man.He baulked at the very thought of becoming King and hated a daily existence of what he derisively called ‘princing’… At the heart of his darkness the gloomy Prince considered suicide. Returning from his wildly successful tour of North America in 1919, he said to his private secretary: ‘ I loathe my job now... I feel I am through with it and long, and long to die.’ Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2984287/How-dippy-duke-death-wish-snared-Mrs-Simpson-sexual-hypnotist-Royal-biographer-reveals-Edward-hated-Princing-loved-perk-men-s-wives.html#ixzz4yCSn249c Modern and informal: you never saw George V like this!
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 13, 2017 7:45:37 GMT
The façade of the first Windsors
Here they all are in all their glory: Very impressive, and something to evoke patriotic feelings from their subjects in the far-flung corners of the Empire. It was just an illusion of a united model family though. The information available today reveals a collection of insecure, dysfunctional people, many of whom disliked each other. The cold and distant parents didn’t notice the torture and starvation of their two oldest baby boys. George V was harsh with his children, treating them like mini midshipmen, and Queen Mary permitted this because of her respect for his position. The Prince of Wales came to despise his three surviving brothers: Bertie because of his stammer and general weakness, George because of drug usage and Henry because of his drinking. As we have seen, he was not a very balanced person himself. Their childhood experiences must be responsible for some of the problems. I wonder how different history would be if these children had been better treated. The future kings George VI and Edward VIII with their sister Mary and some words from their father:
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