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Post by Lavendel on Nov 2, 2018 15:26:34 GMT
“We are collecting info here which may seem unimportant of face value but may be the link we need in the future.“ You are right. We should follow our intuitions. I have a few more Cornwall-related topics and leads to investigate: pirates, stone circles, the Scilly Isles, more royal visits, books… “Here there is not much information on Cornwall.” Another option we have for seeing Cornwall without actually going there is webcams. Unfortunately there is not much action at this time of year and the hours of daylight are getting fewer and fewer, so there is not much to see. “Normally by this time I should be having winter sleep but 2018 does not seem to end.“ Does this mean that you usually hibernate for the winter like a squirrel! Please do post all you have or find. Its interesting discovery you have found.
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Post by Lavendel on Nov 2, 2018 15:33:39 GMT
“We are collecting info here which may seem unimportant of face value but may be the link we need in the future.“ You are right. We should follow our intuitions. I have a few more Cornwall-related topics and leads to investigate: pirates, stone circles, the Scilly Isles, more royal visits, books… “Here there is not much information on Cornwall.” Another option we have for seeing Cornwall without actually going there is webcams. Unfortunately there is not much action at this time of year and the hours of daylight are getting fewer and fewer, so there is not much to see. “Normally by this time I should be having winter sleep but 2018 does not seem to end.“ Does this mean that you usually hibernate for the winter like a squirrel! Out intuition is unlimited and you never know what we find. ——- Yes i slow down in winter i buy nuts, cookies, Netflix, Christmas stuff early and make my home cozy. I go out only when need be and i eat less as i dont move around much. Sometimes i fast for two weeks without stop. So i read , paint, get lost in my thoughts, its time of dreaming and going inwardly for me. As soon as spring comes ; every thing looks bright , energetic and i eat and walk around.
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Post by Lavendel on Nov 2, 2018 15:36:33 GMT
Sherlock Holmes goes to Cornwall
Cornwall is being mentioned a lot on here these days - thanks to Camilla, whose primary title is Duchess of Cornwall. As with many topics, there is a Sherlock Holmes connection.
In the short story The Adventure of the Devil’s Foot, Sherlock Holmes goes to Cornwall for a rest cure. He and Watson rent a small cottage near Poldhu, which is a real location in the far west of Cornwall.
The story contains some background information about Cornwall, and Conan Doyle gets it right. The descriptions of the scenery are very good, and one character is called Tregennis, a typical Cornish name.
There is a good reason for this: Conan Doyle himself took a rest cure in Poldhu in 1910 and probably did a lot of research into Cornish matters while he was there.
It took a few months to write the story. The date on the postcard he sent from Poldhu to Bram (Dracula) Stoker is March 1910; The Adventure of the Devil’s Foot first appeared in print in December 1910.
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Post by Lavendel on Nov 2, 2018 15:39:26 GMT
Sherlock Holmes in Cornwall: two small tribute books Written by UnseenITwo books were inspired by Conan Doyle’s story The Adventure of the Devil’s Foot. The first, presented as a lost monograph, is based on what Dr. Watson reports about Sherlock Holmes’s interest in the Cornish language. This comes early in the story, before they have taken on the case of the Devil’s Foot: “The ancient Cornish language had also arrested his attention, and he had, I remember, conceived the idea that it was akin to the Chaldean, and had been largely derived from the Phoenician traders in tin. He had received a consignment of books upon philology and was settling down to develop this thesis...” This comes at the end of the story, after they have solved the case: “And now, my dear Watson, I think we may dismiss the matter from our mind and go back with a clear conscience to the study of those Chaldean roots which are surely to be traced in the Cornish branch of the great Celtic speech." This book, only 26 pages long, is a discussion of the story: “A discussion of the Devil's Foot, with the text of the story.”
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 2, 2018 18:46:44 GMT
Thank you for liking some posts enough to copy them from another thread. It is amazing what we are finding.
I will look at all your posts and carry on investigating Cornwall connections.
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 3, 2018 8:52:08 GMT
The Minack Theatre in Cornwall
The open-air Minack Theatre in west Cornwall is built into the rock cliffs. It was opened in 1932. I have seen it, but not gone to any performances. Prince Charles and Camilla have been there: It is possible to view it on the webcam. At lunchtime yesterday I saw a few visitors wandering around, and the deep blue sea was moving slowly: www.minack.com/a-living-theatre/webcams/
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Post by Lavendel on Nov 3, 2018 11:15:36 GMT
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 3, 2018 19:48:37 GMT
That cake looks delicious. I wish that I could have some!
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Post by Lavendel on Nov 5, 2018 10:01:06 GMT
UnseenI yes Germans have their way humor . Abit hard but because of ingrained classism make it hard to be seen to joke or show humor. I am still unsure about joking or posting humor here as i dont want to step on others boundaries. I appreciate that you dont mind my humorous side. We have been posting earnest connections so I think its nice to make fun or joke. I like to joke regarding the Cornwalls because i have seen pictures of their events and love what i see. They enjoy each other. I think it was wise for camila to tell charles not to compete for publicity with his sons, but rather step back. This way they can connect, enjoy eat dance without the scrutiny kate and William face yet they are lower in rank. The cambridges take themselves to earnst and grand and when you look at what the Cornwalls get away with you think whats the deal. I try to be fair to the cambridges but they are so uncreatiive and unimaginative in their public royals. Thats why am happy we have the Crazy Cornwalls and unhinged Sussexes to lighten up things. Invited to tea ————- UnseenI if i was to have a choice to tea with royals: Charles and Camilla would be my choice as i would be show i would eat and drink with a crazy 😜 lot and we would meet again and visit each other. I think the Sussexes have some of this too. But with cambridges; only Charlotte would be fun drinking tea with.
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 7, 2018 7:48:39 GMT
Two unusual museums in Cornwall
The Welsh actor Richard Burton and his Cornish connections have recently appeared in another thread. There is an online museum dedicated to his memory. There is another man of this name with a Cornish connection and a museum dedicated to him: Captain Sir Richard Burton the African explorer. The museum is in St. Ives in Cornwall. St. Ives is a beautiful place in the north of Cornwall but it seems strange, as this Burton was born in Devon! There is another museum in north Cornwall: the Museum of Witchcraft and Magic in Boscastle. It is a great tourist attraction, It houses the world's largest collection of occult and witchcraft related artefacts and regalia, including many depictions of Baphomet:
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Post by Lavendel on Nov 7, 2018 15:15:42 GMT
Two unusual museums in Cornwall
The Welsh actor Richard Burton and his Cornish connections have recently appeared in another thread. There is an online museum dedicated to his memory. There is another man of this name with a Cornish connection and a museum dedicated to him: Captain Sir Richard Burton the African explorer. The museum is in St. Ives in Cornwall. St. Ives is a beautiful place in the north of Cornwall but it seems strange, as this Burton was born in Devon! There is another museum in north Cornwall: the Museum of Witchcraft and Magic in Boscastle. It is a great tourist attraction, It houses the world's largest collection of occult and witchcraft related artefacts and regalia, including many depictions of Baphomet: Cornwall is a county of contradictions according to the information and you have discovered. One side it houses the largest museum for witchcraft; the its home to burton a humanitarian; bavarian connection. It makes perfect sence now why the Cornwall deems Cornwall the price to keep and be protected by prince of wales. After your discovery, I look at Cornwall in a new light. Not limited to romantic stories , charles and camila. Cornwall is a piece of work with deep tradition. I think but i may be wrong Charles years as duke of Cornwall and longest serving has made the county be defined and identified by him. ——————— Bavaria like Cornwall as you have discovered has a tight connection more than we knew. This is so interesting and will busy me for years. However kate and William will fit well as the duke and duchess of Cornwall as they like tradition; have both feet on the ground. Kate comes from a hard working family. I really hope they will attend the annual celebrations and connect with people there. I cannot wait to read more discoveries you have found on Cornwall. I think she his will be one of the longest projects on Alternaticity. Every I think it was genius for @acacyn to name this forum a project. That way it flows without an end. There several open strings we are knitting everyday in search of the truth. Will the project end when we find the truth? Is there an ultimate truth?
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Post by Lavendel on Nov 7, 2018 15:18:41 GMT
Posted by UnseenICornwall and Germany “Here there is not much information on Cornwall.” Lavendel there is something to add to what has been posted about King Ludwig II of Bavaria, Richard Wagner and the operas based on the Arthurian legends. Without Ludwig’s patronage, these operas might not have existed. One of the Arthurian operas is Tristan und Isolde. The characters include King Marke (Mark) and Queen Isolde (Iseult) of Cornwall and Tristan the Cornish knight. It is likely that no one involved with the production knew much about Cornwall, so they had to use their imaginations. The set design for the first Bayreuth performance in 1886 shows a castle and the sea.
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Post by Lavendel on Nov 7, 2018 15:21:02 GMT
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Kings, Earls and Dukes of Bavaria and Cornwall
br] “What a connection. Thats a find UnseenI! Now everything is starting to link. Small world indeed.”
Lavendel, there is more of the same to come!
We have seen one connection between Cornwall and Bavaria in the form of a German opera in which one of the main characters is King Mark of Cornwall.
King Mark may have been a real person who lived in the early 6th century; he may have been a complete legend; he may have been a legend but based on a real person. The evidence is not conclusive.
What is certain is that centuries before the Duchy of Cornwall as we know it was created in 1337, there were several real people who called themselves Earl of Cornwall or King of Cornwall. Cornwall was a kingdom before it became a duchy.
Similarly, before there were kings in Bavaria (Bayern), there were dukes. Bavaria was a duchy before it became a kingdom.
Not only that, but there were connections and cross-connections between some of these royal people.
This is not a history site and it takes ages to collect information, but I will post about some of the most relevant - and unexpected - links I have found.
This artist’s depiction of King Mark dates from 1905:
UnseenI Avatar UnseenI Senior Member * yesterday at 8:32am Quote likePost Options Richard Burton, King Mark of Cornwall and Richard Wagner
The Welsh actor Richard Burton (the man who was twice married to Elizabeth Taylor) played King Mark of Cornwall in the 1981 film Lovespell, which like Wagner’s opera Tristan und Isolde is based on the Arthurian legend of Tristan and Iseult.
He also played Richard Wagner in the 1983 TV mini-series Wagner. I didn’t know about it, but see that it got mixed reviews. Some people say he was seriously miscast while others say he gave the performance of a lifetime. There are some episodes on YouTube for anyone who wants to see for themselves. The music and the scenery should make it worth watching.
While Lovespell was filmed entirely on location in Ireland, Wagner was filmed in many authentic locations including King Ludwig II's castle of Neuschwanstein and Herrenchiemsee, and the Residenz in Munich, Germany. Other locations were in Hungary, Switzerland, Siena, Tuscany, Venice, Vienna and Dublin.
UnseenI Avatar UnseenI Senior Member * yesterday at 8:35am Quote likePost Options Richard Burton and Bavaria again
Richard Burton was in the film Where Eagles Dare; it was filmed in Austria and Bavaria.
The film was based on a book by Alistair MacLean. The story is set during WWII in Bavaria. Much of the action takes place in Schloss Adler, an impenetrable castle where an American general is being held prisoner.
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Post by Lavendel on Nov 7, 2018 15:23:46 GMT
Posted bu UnseenI in another thread: Cornwall and Bavaria “…the connections are thrillers. I cant wait to read more.” Lavendel I am saving the best till last! Something special will be going on soon. I too am surprised at all these connections. I did not know about most of them before I started the recent investigations. Now I will have to think about the names that you found. Of course there are major differences: for example, Bavaria is 20 times the size of Cornwall with a population 24 times that of Cornwall and Bavaria is landlocked whereas Cornwall is all coastline. Two more similarities: There is a strong ‘national’ identity in both places: people consider themselves to be Cornish first and English second or Bavarian first and German second. There are blue and white waves on the Cornish coat of arms and blue and white diamonds on the Bavarian flag:
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Post by Lavendel on Nov 7, 2018 15:29:31 GMT
UnseenI , I followed your lead to bavaria and this is what i found; Albert I The Other Duke of Cornwall Albrecht Luitpold Ferdinand Michael von Wittelsbach was born at Munich, May 3, 1905. He was the younger son of Crown Prince Rupert of Bavaria and of his first wife, Duchess Marie Gabriele in Bavaria. From his birth Albert bore the title of "Prince of Bavaria". He was also recognised by the Jacobites as "Prince of England, Scotland, France and Ireland, and Prince of Cornwall and Rothesay". At the death of his grandmother Mary Theresa, February 3, 1919, Albert's father Rupert succeeded to all of his mother's British rights. Albert was henceforward recognised by the Jacobites as " Duke of Cornwall and Rothesay, Earl of Carrick, Baron of Renfrew, Lord of the Isles, and Prince and Great Steward of Scotland".
At the death of his grandfather King Ludwig III of Bavaria, October 18, 1921, Albert became heir to the Bavarian throne after his father; henceforward he used the title "Hereditary Prince of Bavaria". He lived in the Rehbach-Stöckerl of Schloss Berchtesgarden, and then studied forestry at the University of Munich. On September 3, 1930, in the Stiftskirche at Berchtesgarden, Albert married Countess Marita Draskovich von Trakostjan, daughter of Count Dionys Draskovich von Trakostjan and of his wife, Princess Julia of Montenuovo. This marriage was not in conformity with the laws of the House of Wittelsbach respecting succession to the Bavarian throne. In consequence, Marita was not properly styled "Hereditary Princess of Bavaria" until May 18, 1949, when Albert's father Rupert recognised the marriage as dynastic for Bavaria. Francis II ————— Franz Bonaventura Adalbert Maria von Wittelsbach was born July 14, 1933, at Lindwurmstrasse 2a (the hospital of the University of Munich). He is the elder son of Hereditary Prince (later Duke) Albert of Bavaria and of his first wife, Countess Maria Draskovich von Traskotjan. From his birth Francis was recognised by the Jacobites as a "Prince of England, Scotland, France and Ireland, Prince of Cornwall and Rothesay". Owing, however, to the fact that his parents' marriage was, at the time of his birth, not considered dynastic as regards succession to the Bavarian throne, Francis was not a dynastic "Prince of Bavaria", in spite of the fact that he was commonly addressed as such. When on May 18, 1949, Francis' grandfather Rupert recognised as dynastic the marriage between Francis' parents, Francis officially became a "Prince of Bavaria". In 1939, Francis' father Albert took his family to Hungary where they spent most of the war years. In October 1944, however, Francis and his family were arrested by the Nazis. They were imprisoned for seven months in several concentration camps including Dachau. After the war, Francis was educated by the Benedictines at Ettal. He then studied business management at the University of Munich and in Zurich. At the death of his grandfather Rupert, August 2, 1955, Francis' father Albert succeeded to all of his father's British rights. Francis was henceforward recognised by the Jacobites as "Duke of Cornwall and Rothesay, Earl of Carrick, Baron of Renfrew, Lord of the Isles, and Prince and Great Steward of Scotland". He now used the title "Hereditary Prince of Bavaria". At the death of his father Albert, July 8, 1996, Francis succeeded to all of his British rights. He was henceforward recognised by the Jacobites as "King Francis II". As Head of the House of Bavaria he uses the title "Duke of Bavaria". He lives in an apartment in Schloss Nymphenburg. Francis is Grand Master of the Order of St. Hubertus, of the Military Order of Maximilian-Joseph, and of the Order of St. George. He is also a Bailiff Grand Cross of Honour and Devotion of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta and (since 1960) a Knight of the (Austrian) Order of the Golden Fleece.
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Post by Lavendel on Nov 8, 2018 18:45:46 GMT
UnseenI; i just stumbled on some technicality. The title of duke of Cornwall is given to the heir apparent to a reigning monarch. If the heir dies. The title reverts to the monarch and does not automatically pass to the grandson. That means only a reigning charles can name William duke of Cornwall. So when queen stays as queen and Charles regent, William will never be acting duke of Cornwall . The title of prince of wales is given to heir apparent at the discretion of the sovereign. It does not have to be the first born son. Just the person the king choses as heir apparent. The prince of wales is appointed duke of Cornwall at discretion of the monarch. It seems Cornwall is semi autonomous has special provision like bayern. The duke appoints own high sheriff and manages all affairs as independent leader. Which means the first son blood is necessary to run Cornwall and avoid demand for independence.
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 8, 2018 19:20:51 GMT
The titles are very confusing. This one means a lot because of the income.
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 8, 2018 19:22:16 GMT
Camilla cuts cake in Cornwall
She is visiting Trewithen Farm in Cornwall. She looks as though she wants to fight people off with the sword so that she can eat all the cake herself!
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Post by Lavendel on Nov 8, 2018 20:41:41 GMT
The titles are very confusing. This one means a lot because of the income. Yes the titles and conditions change; “Until 2011, if there was no Duke of Cornwall at any time, then the income of the Duchy went to the Crown. Since the passing into law of the Sovereign Grant Act 2011, revenues of the Duchy of Cornwall pass to the heir to the throne, regardless of whether that heir is the Duke of Cornwall. In the event that the heir is a minor, 10% of the revenues pass to the heir, with the balance passing to the Crown (and the Sovereign Grant is reduced by the same amount).[6]” Wikipedia When george was born things changed. Now any heir to the throne gets funds from the duchy. According to this new law and consideration of brexit high costs which have forced the queen income to be reduced this year; it would make financial sense to have a minor heir apparent as he will get 10% of the duchy income and the rest goes to who a regent and thus the sovereign grant is reduced. That would mean a Prince Regent and a minor heir to the throne saves money for the crown sovereign grant. The state and government will have more money and more power over a minor heir. Thus a william reign, would mean grant for him and prince george will recieve alot of income from the duchy as youngster and the sovereign grant has to feed Williams other children ; plus harrys children . In financial sense a william king with his children and his brothers and current queens children , own cousins and grand children who may live to be old will be a heavy burden for the crown. If william lives to be 90 he will reign for many years and cost the grant alot of money. Since they are not out making business deals for uk someone has to bring in the money and work. I think the clause was made for a minor heir apparent to cut costs. A single prince regent to minor heir apparent will live comfortably on the duchy of Cornwall income and not burden the crown sovereign grant.
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Post by Lavendel on Nov 8, 2018 20:50:15 GMT
Camilla cuts cake in Cornwall
She is visiting Trewithen Farm in Cornwall. She looks as though she wants to fight people off with the sword so that she can eat all the cake herself! 😂 🤣 thats a good one! UnseenI ; She really is ready for the cake . Charles is the defender of the faiths. Camilla aspiring to be defender of the cakes . As queen on maudy Sunday instead of giving out coins to the poorest among us ; she will distribute pieces of chocolate cake and invite the poor to the palace to eat cake.. I cant wait for camila to be queen of the people. Let them eat cake she will comand!
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 9, 2018 18:57:19 GMT
Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall and Defender of the Cake
Another very funny remark Lavendel . They toured Cornwall in the summer, and she received many cakes for her 71st birthday in July including one carrot cake that was widely criticised. It looks messy, and the long strips of raw carrot are all wrong. Maybe she is asking for a better cake here:
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 12, 2018 8:16:33 GMT
Cornish ‘genius’
They have combined two traditional Cornish food products, the Cornish pasty and the Stargazy pie... ...to make the Stargazy pasty! Whose ‘good idea’ was this? I wonder whether the royals have ever ‘Stargazed’. I can’t find any pictures of the Cornwalls eating these fish and pastry delicacies.
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Post by Lavendel on Nov 12, 2018 9:12:50 GMT
The Rottweiler ——————- The “Rottweiler” came out yesterday to bite kate; lucky the queen was standing between them. It was supposed to be historical moment but they turned it to cat power fight.
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Post by magpiejack on Nov 12, 2018 9:37:31 GMT
Great pictures of the Rottweiler, Lavendel - if looks could kill! I was looking at the Daily Mail pics yesterday - as mentioned on the old forum, there is no way that Kate is under 40. Did you see the bags under her eyes, and doesn't she look jowly?
On the significance of Cornwall topic - the county is very much in popular culture due to the dramatisation of Poldark, one of the most lavish dramas that the BBC has produced in a long time.
Apologies again for absence, I'm between jobs again but have a definite offer of another one. This year has not been easy!
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 12, 2018 9:58:12 GMT
magpiejack it is good to see you on here again. I hope that you get a really good job after all your trouble and uncertainty. I find that posting on here is a good distraction from various problems. As for Poldark, I have never seen it but was thinking of looking for relevant connections.
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Post by Lavendel on Nov 12, 2018 19:09:47 GMT
Great pictures of the Rottweiler, Lavendel - if looks could kill! I was looking at the Daily Mail pics yesterday - as mentioned on the old forum, there is no way that Kate is under 40. Did you see the bags under her eyes, and doesn't she look jowly? On the significance of Cornwall topic - the county is very much in popular culture due to the dramatisation of Poldark, one of the most lavish dramas that the BBC has produced in a long time. Apologies again for absence, I'm between jobs again but have a definite offer of another one. This year has not been easy! Yes the rottweiler saw charles taking over the work of his parents sovereignly , the queen to her right and giving her attention was a home run for her. She gave kate the look -your days are numbered. like dont dare talk to Her Majesty. the cambridges are shaking in fear of Charles monarch. He will have enough time to make changes. So William is playing the grandchildren card. That he needs to spend more time with his grandchildren. Yet camila said he spends time reading Harry Potter to her grandchildren. I dont know what will become of this. magpiejack, welcome back. I can imagine its not easy but atleast you have a new job offer and hopefully it will make you happy and relaxed , as well as give you time to post often. UnseenI has been keeping the project going on steadily. I will leave this week to take winter break. But i will be reading posts now and then.
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 12, 2018 19:59:15 GMT
Lavendel you could always do just a few short posts from time to time to keep in touch and let us know that you are ok. I need to catch up with your recent posts, and to investigate leads of my own and some from you. I want to remind you that you said this: "Camelot, cameran, cameron are names which appeared as the documentary about king Arthur." Well, by coincidence Cornwall has many legends about giants, and the most famous one is called Cormoran!I may come back to this later.
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Post by Lavendel on Nov 14, 2018 13:24:25 GMT
Lavendel you could always do just a few short posts from time to time to keep in touch and let us know that you are ok. I need to catch up with your recent posts, and to investigate leads of my own and some from you. I want to remind you that you said this: "Camelot, cameran, cameron are names which appeared as the documentary about king Arthur." Well, by coincidence Cornwall has many legends about giants, and the most famous one is called Cormoran!I may come back to this later. UnseenI, i would love to. However since am intuitive poster , i need to take break when i get exhausted from to many ideas such. anyway as soon as December comes ; most royals focus on Christmas events and good will patronage; pleasantly accepting each other and so nothing really curious going on. As soon as spring comes out they comeout. next year is going to be alot going. I want to be fresh in mind to sniff any anomalities. Charles clarence house is under renovation until 2020 so no visitors. Buckpalace too. The sussexes will split from cambridges, the yorks are working on power struggle strategy, ; brexit. in japan the crown prince like Charles will get power. The europeans want own army and an empire to rival Americana and China. —————- cormoran is written Kamerön / kameroan in German. Rowlings book: cormoran strikes. ————- Rowlings of the Harry Potter tales has book called -cormoran strikes 4. Released on the 18.9.18 if added together we get (1+8).9.(1+8) = 999 Dreams: yesterday i had a dream that harry moved to one Victoria style houses in Berlin. He was living in the ground floor in dark apartment. I asked him why are here you have a home and wife. He said he needed time alone and then next day he left for home Today i woke from a dream afraid; shaken as i was being chased through buildings be some agents who dont like what we post here. Thats its too revealing of their plans😀 I escaped to my bunker though; then woke up . Thats i sign I should get some rest.
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Post by Lavendel on Nov 14, 2018 13:31:21 GMT
Charles loves giving access to his house, farm, children prictures, lifestyle. ———————— Charles may be the last prince of wales who has always given access to his life, ideas, plans, public homes. William is a scared and closed book who gives access for money only. With him we shall go back to a dark , fearful secretive era. We better enjoy charles open door and dramatic lifestyles while it lasts.
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Post by UnseenI on Nov 14, 2018 18:25:10 GMT
It does sound as though a break is needed - bad dreams are not funny.
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