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Post by UnseenI on Jun 14, 2018 18:22:10 GMT
Queen Charlotte and the grossly exaggerated story
As already mentioned, Queen Charlotte was the mother of the first Duke of Sussex. She has not got much in common with Princess Diana, the mother of the second! There was some speculation about her ancestry, and the sensationalist press turned it into the “Britain’s black queen” story. Some called her the first bi-racial royal. This is ridiculous. It is very low-class journalism. I suppose that there are some people who have reasons for needing or wanting to believe that she was black though, and others who see it as good clickbait. A quick look at dates shows that the story was first publicised in 2009; it has recently been revived, for obvious reasons. It is all too complicated for me to want to go into it, but apparently it is something to do with her remote connection to the Portuguese royal family, one branch of which had in the 13th century a member who might have been a Moor thus north African. In other words, there is a remote possibility that Queen Charlotte might have had a tiny drop of African blood! Queen Charlotte and her son Augustus’s support for the growing and fashionable anti-slavery campaign is considered by some to be evidence for the truth of the story. Queen Charlotte is reported to have been plain-looking if not ugly, with unusual features. Some people have used this as supporting evidence for the story. From WiKi: “In 1767, Francis Cotes drew a pastel of Queen Charlotte with her eldest daughter Charlotte...called the likeness so like that it could not be mistaken for any other person"
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Post by UnseenI on Jun 14, 2018 18:33:56 GMT
Lavendel I have not been able to keep up with everything but it is an amazing coincidence that an HP film was filmed under the River Mersey. I have so many things to look into now!
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 14, 2018 18:54:53 GMT
Lavendel I have not been able to keep up with everything but it is an amazing coincidence that an HP film was filmed under the River Mersey. I have so many things to look into now! Unseenl there is alot to look into. Just from today only. In the next days i will update more here. My computer was working badly and reposting of posts happened. I am unable to delete double posts.
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 14, 2018 18:56:37 GMT
Queen Charlotte and the grossly exaggerated story
As already mentioned, Queen Charlotte was the mother of the first Duke of Sussex. She has not got much in common with Princess Diana, the mother of the second! There was some speculation about her ancestry, and the sensationalist press turned it into the “Britain’s black queen” story. Some called her the first bi-racial royal. This is ridiculous. It is very low-class journalism. I suppose that there are some people who have reasons for needing or wanting to believe that she was black though, and others who see it as good clickbait. A quick look at dates shows that the story was first publicised in 2009; it has recently been revived, for obvious reasons. It is all too complicated for me to want to go into it, but apparently it is something to do with her remote connection to the Portuguese royal family, one branch of which had in the 13th century a member who might have been a Moor thus north African. In other words, there is a remote possibility that Queen Charlotte might have had a tiny drop of African blood! Queen Charlotte and her son Augustus’s support for the growing and fashionable anti-slavery campaign is considered by some to be evidence for the truth of the story. Queen Charlotte is reported to have been plain-looking if not ugly, with unusual features. Some people have used this as supporting evidence for the story. From WiKi: “In 1767, Francis Cotes drew a pastel of Queen Charlotte with her eldest daughter Charlotte...called the likeness so like that it could not be mistaken for any other person" Unseeln thanks for finding more information on this charlotte and augustus. I believe little Charlotte cambridges is named after her.
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 14, 2018 19:03:13 GMT
Not having read Harry Potter I don't know any of the connections. Chester is in Cheshire isn't it? So will be interesting to see if any cats appear to add to the Looking glass and Alice references implicit in their wedding and engagement. I agree with Lavender that some sort of magic was used in their wedding to evoke Queen of Hearts and heart energy. The bridge symbolism is very masonic of course as well. Transformer dont worry about not have read harry potter. I never read the books. I watched a movie of the first book as i worked as baby seater and i noticed how it kept the kid i baby sat cool and focused and she wanted to watch the movie every time i baby sat so i watched and rewatched . Now i got to the Harry Potter fan page for insightful info. Yes chester is in cheshire. There is chester wizardry school there too and grange school and the River Mersey bridge crossing is 1000 year old.. very magical tale.
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Post by UnseenI on Jun 15, 2018 6:05:59 GMT
"My computer was working badly and reposting of posts happened. I am unable to delete double posts." Lavendel a former member deleted a lot of posts leaving gaps in some threads so Avacyn changed the rules so that we cannot edit posts after 20 minutes. If we try, we get a new draft and if we don't abandon it we get double posts. I have left a message for him as I keep seeing small errors in my posts that I would like to fix. I am sure that he will sort it out. So you have a computer in addition to your phone? I always use my laptop for posting, and save the posts in a Word document.
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Post by UnseenI on Jun 15, 2018 6:07:47 GMT
Prince Augustus Frederick, first Duke of Sussex
Augustus Frederick became a person of interest after Prince Harry was given the title Duke of Sussex. People looked for common elements in the lives of the two princes.
Some similarities were found, but I don’t think that Prince Harry much resembles his predecessor, who was much more of a scholar. There isn’t much relevant information to add to what has already been posted.
Augustus too was way down the line of succession and married someone a few years his senior. He did this without the knowledge of King George III. He was on a continental tour at the time; he had previously written a few letters to his father without getting any replies, so perhaps he got annoyed and thought it was not worth writing to apply for permission.
He later agreed to live separately from his wife and children in return for an annual grant and the title Duke of Sussex. His officially illegitimate son Augustus later claimed the title for himself, unsuccessfully.
People say that Prince Augustus had red hair; one or two of his portraits show a reddish tinge, but he was not a redhead.
I don’t think that there are many clues to the future life of Prince Harry here.
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Post by UnseenI on Jun 15, 2018 6:31:30 GMT
Lavender Brown and Meghan Markle
“I agree with Lavender that some sort of magic was used in their wedding to evoke Queen of Hearts and heart energy.“ “Not having read Harry Potter I don't know any of the connections.“ transformer it was Lavendel who first compared Meghan to Lavender Brown, a minor character in the HP books and films. Connections and references to HP are scattered all over the main monarchy thread. Some of them are uncanny. I am reproducing one for you because of what you said about hearts and because of the recent royal train journey. Lavender Brown is drawing a heart on a window in the Hogwarts Express:
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 15, 2018 10:38:18 GMT
I did some look up. A river goddess called Belisama of the Celtic is the goddess of river Mersey. She was the goddess of all kinds of fire and healing. She is depicted with firery wavy, locks of long hair flying in the wind as she descends to earth. She has green dress and red hair. Gaulish goddess..
Yesterday megs hair was not tired back or with a hat. The hair was left to fly around her face and in the wind although the weather was predicted to be stormy.
Yesterday was tower fire memorial and people wore green hear and sang for healing. I believe yesterday was a ritual of the godness of fire abd green at the river mersey.
May was also in green dress with a heart.
I think the tower events was a cover for more deeper meaning. I will post the goddess pictures later. I saw a picture of charles in blue and camila in blue meaning and greeting in masonic way with a man with a gold decoration on his chest. Gue
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 15, 2018 10:50:46 GMT
Prince Augustus Frederick, first Duke of Sussex
Augustus Frederick became a person of interest after Prince Harry was given the title Duke of Sussex. People looked for common elements in the lives of the two princes. Some similarities were found, but I don’t think that Prince Harry much resembles his predecessor, who was much more of a scholar. There isn’t much relevant information to add to what has already been posted. Augustus too was way down the line of succession and married someone a few years his senior. He did this without the knowledge of King George III. He was on a continental tour at the time; he had previously written a few letters to his father without getting any replies, so perhaps he got annoyed and thought it was not worth writing to apply for permission. He later agreed to live separately from his wife and children in return for an annual grant and the title Duke of Sussex. His officially illegitimate son Augustus later claimed the title for himself, unsuccessfully. People say that Prince Augustus had red hair; one or two of his portraits show a reddish tinge, but he was not a redhead. I don’t think that there are many clues to the future life of Prince Harry here. There is alot of information and pictures here about Augustus. He looks alittle like harry. They write he went on tour and landed in rome. He met Augusta daughter of charlotte and william murray a wales aristocracy of high standards there but not in england. They keep intouch through letters and arranged to meet in rome to marry because in england they marriage act didnt allow divorcees marriage. They married in the church of england in rome. But the marriage was not valid in the uk. They went and married in hanover again but still the marriage was not valid. Augustus was not allowed in court. But still they stayed together and had two children. I read harry went of and secretly married in botswana and the church wedding was to religious recognise that. But like august and augusta marriage harrys marriage is not recognised by Church of England thus they didn’t get Westminster abby. In 1830 Augusta died. Augustus married a second wife who was a divorcee. Their marrieage was not accepted and his wife was not allowed in court. Queen victoria made her duchess of Ireland on her own right and that way she could appear in court. I think giving the Sussex marriage is difficult but the queen found a way around the establishment protests. She made it a windsor wedding.
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 15, 2018 11:12:41 GMT
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 15, 2018 11:16:52 GMT
Today i chanced on these pictures from different painters of the time.
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 15, 2018 11:19:57 GMT
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 15, 2018 12:16:58 GMT
Belisama the green firery goddess. -------------------- ""From the Norman period (and indubitably before), until the end of the 18th century the Ribble was renown for being rich in salmon, the quintessential fish of wisdom, with the most important of the fish garths being located at Fish House Bridge in Penwortham[8]. Another possible reason for this identification is that wisdom can be gained from watching and listening to the flow of the Ribble in different spots. One of the lessons I’ve learnt from Belisama is dynamism and change; due to a combination of the tides, rain fall and the position of the sun or moon her waters never look the same in any place. In terms of crafts, Belisama has inspired a good deal of creative writing from the poems of Richard Dugdale (the Bard of Ribblesdale 1849), James Flockhart’s ‘The River’ (1854), Gerard Manley Hopkins’ ‘Ribblesdale’ (1876) and John Heath-Stubb’s ‘The Green Man’s Last will and Testament’ – ‘the cruel nymphs / Of the northern streams, Peg Towler of the Tees / And Jenny Greenteeth of the Ribble, / Sisters of Belisama, the very fair one’ (1973)[9]. Jane Brunning, a Penwortham based author blogging as Reigh Belisama runs a site called ‘Save the Ribble,’ which played a leading role in preventing the river barrage at Brockholes and continues to oppose fracking on the Ribble Estuary[10]. Belisama’s influence on the cotton industry can be recalled by the number of old mills on her tributaries. Without Riversway Dockland, which was created by moving the Ribble from Strand Road to her present course beside Castle Hill, Preston could not have played its huge role in the industrial revolution. Whilst I’m unaware of any associations linking Belisama with physical healing, spending time beside the Ribble usually has a calming, cleansing effect on me. Moving from Belisama to the Ribble, the first mention of the change of name is in ‘the Latin Life of St Wilfrid’ (patron saint of Preston) where ‘lands identified as ‘round Ribble’ (iuxta Rippel), Yeadon, Dent and Catlow’ are granted by the English ruler to ‘the community at Ripon’[11]."" Quoted from blogpreston.co.uk Interesting read on belisama is john heath-stubbs, tge green mans last will and testament. Also interesting is the lunch her maj had at runcorn. It was salmon. T
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Post by transformer on Jun 15, 2018 12:21:56 GMT
The current title holder (although it can only be honorary as she isn't British)
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 15, 2018 12:42:14 GMT
Green Belisama of river mersey goddess of the celtic
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 15, 2018 14:22:17 GMT
In sweden at the polar music prize today 2018 the princessses pay homage to the green duchess. With orange and lavender flowers.
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 15, 2018 15:14:10 GMT
Yesterday princess victoria wore green dress to the aquavision 2018 conference held at stavanger . Princess sofia wore green dress on junen11 to awards for her university of nurses. Seems everyone is finding their green dress. However the lady next to princess victoria has a gold decoration same as the man who recieved the queen in runcorn and prince charles and camila in another city.. is it an internation underground thing.
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 15, 2018 15:43:34 GMT
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 15, 2018 16:16:09 GMT
yesterday
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Post by UnseenI on Jun 15, 2018 16:53:53 GMT
Lavendel you really are on a roll. You have found some amazing information, connections and coincidences. I need time to catch up and read it all carefully before responding. First I want to look at a few things from the past again, as they may seem more significant after the marriage and the journey on the Hogwarts Express.
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Post by UnseenI on Jun 15, 2018 16:55:12 GMT
Meghan Markle the fairytale princess Lavendel saw some facial resemblance to Lavender Brown from HP in a picture of Meghan Markle from a June 2012 TV programme called Castle, where Meghan played a character who dresses up as the Sleeping Beauty. She also pointed out the Castle/Windsor Castle connection, the lavender dress and the Red Rose of Lancaster: The tiara now seems significant too:
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Post by UnseenI on Jun 15, 2018 16:56:52 GMT
Meghan Markle the fairytale killer
“Meghan is capable of anything.” transformer you often said on the old forum that the DM often contained coded messages. There is a rather chilling suggestion in an article from April 2017 that featured her as the Sleeping Beauty, and it reminded me of what you said: “We all know that one kiss from a prince is all it takes to wake Sleeping Beauty. But when Meghan played the part in June 2012 there wasn’t one to hand. Castle was a U.S. TV series about a writer and a detective who solved crime together. Meghan’s episode, Once Upon A Crime, was about a killer whose victims are found dressed as fairytale characters. The crime fighting duo reached Sleeping Beauty in time to save her. Yet, far from being a helpless princess, she turned out to be the killer, silencing friends who knew a secret from her past (and it’s not that she used to be a Deal Or No Deal girl).” www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4453342/The-roles-Meghan-Markle-forget.htmlThe secret is an accidental murder.
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 15, 2018 19:30:16 GMT
Unseenl this are just leads i write out from intuition. I would say dont stress yourself as we have tome to peice things. I post as much before i forget and later we can reference. Some things may make sence oyhers not at this moment. But since you unseenl is our residence Sherlock holmes, you have many trails to follow.😁
Horses ————- You talked about castle . During the wedding they hard four horses. Carriage called ascot landau, Grey or white horses- tyrone, storm , Plymouth and Milford Haven ( we know sbout this haven ) with Londonderry and sir basil extra. .. l
They rode through castle hill of ( ed sheeran songs) and the long walk to windsor.
I read on the origines of names strom and tyrone is unbelievable... i will post updates after translating from german as white horses called storm have a germanic tale i found .
What’s interesting it seems ed was made awarded by charles by using his songs as programming to prepare use for this. Castle on the hill song ...
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 15, 2018 19:33:01 GMT
Unseenl this are just leads i write out from intuition. I would say dont stress yourself as we have tome to peice things. I post as much before i forget and later we can reference. Some things may make sence oyhers not at this moment. But since you unseenl is our residence Sherlock holmes, you have many trails to follow. I am collecting the pictures here while they are available. So we can have reference in the future before they buried . 😁 Horses ————- You talked about castle . During the wedding they hard four horses. Carriage called ascot landau, Grey or white horses- tyrone, storm , Plymouth and Milford Haven ( we know sbout this haven ) with Londonderry and sir basil extra. .. l They rode through castle hill of ( ed sheeran songs) and the long walk to windsor. I read on the origines of names strom and tyrone is unbelievable... i will post updates after translating from german as white horses called storm have a germanic tale i found . What’s interesting it seems ed was made awarded by charles by using his songs as programming to prepare use for this. Castle on the hill song ...
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Post by UnseenI on Jun 16, 2018 6:13:19 GMT
Lavender Brown: some more information transformer the HP films are often very different from the books. Some of our connections refer specifically to the films, which are often shown on UK TV - and I have the DVDs too! I don’t know what services you can get, but the films are good escape material. Lavender Brown is best seen in the film Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (interesting title!). It is the HP film I like least, but you can see Lavender pursuing Ron Weasley, played by Rupert Grint, who has the very rare combination of red hair and blue eyes - just like Prince Harry. Lavender is very upset when Ron cools off and breaks up with her. Lavender Brown and Ron Weasley:
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Post by UnseenI on Jun 16, 2018 6:16:49 GMT
Meghan and the lavender and brown house
Some of the connections may seem unimportant, but not so much if you add them to the list of HP and other connections. It is all uncanny. Maybe it is just a coincidence, but look at the colours of the house that Meghan rented in Toronto:
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Post by UnseenI on Jun 16, 2018 6:24:32 GMT
Lavendel even though I am British I didn't know most of what you have posted about Cheshire and other things. I need to go through your posts very carefully and see whether there is anything that I can add. I am not going to look any further at the first Duke of Sussex and his family as I don't think there is anything more we can learn.
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 16, 2018 9:09:33 GMT
The round face,the caramel skin colour, head full of curly locks and the smile is uncunny lavender brown. This picture was taken around the time of making hp.
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 16, 2018 9:12:02 GMT
I find the forrest look and wooded,cottage lavender house rather an interesting coincidence with even makes the connections worthy following. Meghan and the lavender and brown house
Some of the connections may seem unimportant, but not so much if you add them to the list of HP and other connections. It is all uncanny. Maybe it is just a coincidence, but look at the colours of the house that Meghan rented in Toronto:
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