The Duchy of York -Its Dukes and Duchesses

Prince Andrew is the current Duke of York, there is a duchess of York but not married to the Duke at the moment. Beatrice the Princess of York.

Normally the first born son of the Sovereign gets the title of Prince of Wales and the second born son of the sovereign gets the title of the Duke of York.

In the future when Prince Charles current prince of Wales becomes sovereign if and when that happens, his first born son will becomes Prince of Wales. Mostly then his second born son Harry becomes duke of York in proxy.

However since Andrew is the prince of York so the question I have is whether the prince Harry will be assistant duke of York. Will prince Harry automatically belong to the house of York where William becomes prince of Wales.

In the past Harry has been close to the Yorks. They even arrange cressida as bride for him but it didnt work out. Was that a strategy to create power against the Wales? or was it part of their responsibility to care for a royal York or future duke of York?

However now Harry has a new bride. It will be interesting to see where they find friendship with the Wales or Yorks.

In the church service video it seems the Cambridges were pulling lavende brown to their side and interrupted her focus and Harry tried to pull her away by showing her e should better listen to him not the Cambridges and still she seemed to listen to the Cambridges and Harry was pissed off alittle.

Lavender is insecure at this moment and the dominant Cambridges were all over her eating up on her uncertainty. They know she has effect and I sensed Harry pulled her off so they could focus on greeting the village folks waiting outside the church and that way managed to distance himself from the future Wales.

The Duke and princess of York followed the harries closely.

I think Harry knows William is a sabotage and jealous of his courageous choice of a partner and he didnt use the same shy tricks William used on Kate.

So now it will be interesting watching the race to the thrown.

During the televised Christmas message the Queen put pictured of the little Wales prince George and lotte.

She put a picture of Charles with camila and Harry with his bride but not of willam and his wife.

My interpretation of this is that the crown wanted to present picture's of the princes of Wales and his two sons and the Grand children as the slimmed down royal family ; but ths Cambridges didnt available their pictures or they were to lazy to be bothered or rather the Queen or crown has made their choice and telling us in a hidden way the heirs.

That charles my inherit since he is been waiting. But then Harry and wife will take over as heir or guardian of the young prince George.

Its like the crown thinks the Cambridges are unmarketable and unwilling and unprepared for take over with but the George and lotte can do nothing against it.

In the pictures I felt the Queen honoured her marriage, Philip upon his retirement , their heir charles, and favorite grand son harry and innocent but distant great grand kids but could not be bothered to honor the Cambridges who are expecting her fourth grand child? Strange turn of events but I feel there is a hidden message in all these display

The current Queen is one of the oldest reigning York. Princess Elizabeth of York never expected to be Queen one day.

She was born to thd duke and duchess of York. Her father due to luck or fate or determined duchess of York become king when the the prince of Wales was never crowned.

Will history repeat itself. Due the current Queen have a duty to pass the crown to a York.

Her favorite son is duke of York, favorite grand daughter princess of York and favorite grandson - duke of York in waiting.
Her favorite great grand daughter princess of York in waiting.

Is all this a coincidence?

Unseenl hope you had a Merry Christmas. I saw the blank post but when I tried to delete it there was a picture link in it but it didnt show.

Thank for posting from cc, I thought this is still interesting thread as we into the run up to new coronation, its interesting to keep an eye on the struggle for the crown.

I have a feeling William will be king just like Edward if at all.

So I really want to see how things turn out.

Charles may be also king for one year then until crowning. Then William also one year beefore crowning he will be out so a York takes over

When I look at Lavender brown she reminds me of Queen mum in her style and ambitious. Queen mum came from a not so rich family but fought her way to the top.

Since Ron has met Lavender brown ( am using this code names so to protect our site. If we use code names which us insiders know maybe it does not attract the attention of the( forum closers) in Harry Potter they used code names to predict and tell stories to the insiders without attractions of the attention of the public. So if we use the harry Potter names for our characters it serves same purpose tells the true story and protects our forum from others.)

So since Ron - Harry met Lavender brown he is turning his life around. I think he needed a strong pusher or supporter with laser sharp focus. She will make him.

The slimmed down royals are Charles - scorpion , camila cancer, William cancer, Harry cancer, Kate Capricorn, george- cancer, lotte- Taurus, Meg Leo.

Astrology says all the signs are very ambiguous, very all want to the top.

However all are water or earth signs or female signs. In the whole group Meg is the fire sign and masculine sign.

That means she is able to motivate her self and others to follow a clear path to greatness. Queen mum was Leo and she pushed her weak husband and earth sign daughter to greatness and she was the power behind the thrown..

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The female signs need a loveling masculine sign to fire them to greatness

I notice since Harry met Leo he has been pushed to take clear and strategic path which which will propel him and Meg to great Heights. So Harry has to protect his muse. I bet Harry is clever to realise that her fire sign will propel him and needs her as much as she needs him.

The whole Cambridges are water and earth signs full of female energy. Carole Middleton an Aquarius and male sign managed to propel Kate to greatness and both will and Kate are greatful to her for creating a clear plan path for them to follow.
However her disadvantage she is not able to create her court in the palace yet because William is not gutsy enough and he second guess her decison. If she had power inside she would push this around. But both will and Kate are lazy and she used all her energy to keep them going and together which almost cost her her marriage. She push her daughter pippa too to marry well. But her reach is limited by court rules and traditionals and slow son inlaw. Still with her limited capacity she has achieved alot. She has brought alot of changes to William and created her own Norfork court.

So in Kensington the two male energy carola and Meg will fight it out fot greatness.

But I have a feeling Harry is easy for Meg to pimp to the top than William is for carola to push to the top because Kate and William are lazy and not easy job. William does tend to sabotage himself. Kate too. Carole a coal mine - rat is old and she will be up against a Hollywood- rat.

However the is another force around Ron- Barack a male sign. They are very close and Obm is a know strategist. So Harry has some of the most ambitious male Leo energy on his side.
Maeg has also the Canadian power house.

So for Harry the motto is very York. GLORY OR DIE!
This is Meg best acting role and has a laser sharp focus according to her brother!

I have to say I can't wait to document and follow her and Harry strategy.

But the female signs in the Windsors are not sleeping they will try to sabotage her as they did duchess of York and Diana.

Sophie an Aquarius wants power too as the heir of the house of Windsor after Philip. She will be leading the house to church every Christmas. her husband Edward is also waiting to climb.

The Yorks Andrew - Aquarius, beatrice Leo, duchess, libra, Eugene - Aries are all fire and masculine signs. They have the Queens ear but not Charles or Philip.
Philip has male sign struggled ruled the Windsors with strong hand and kept the Queen at the top without strong contenders or opposition for 70 years. He has protected her and given her space to reign in peace.

He has been a strong power behind the throne.


But now all the cards are being mixed and differe households want to maintain their lifestyle after the Queen passes. Moreso the Duke of York and his family.

"Harry Cancer"

Your York posts deserve very careful consideration Lavendel. For now, I will just say that Prince Harry was born on 15th September, which is Virgo. This still supports your theory.

Princess Margaret too was a royal Leo by the way, as is Princess Anne. The Queen has the moon in Leo.

I have got this theory dont know what to make of it.
If princess Margaret was born today like charlotte she would become duchess of York in her own right, where her sister Elizabeth would have been princess of Wales in her own right as heir to the throne .

That means when princes George becomes prince of wales, charlotte becomes duchess of York. If that is the case she will have to wait untill princess Andrew and Harry die?

History has it that where second born of sovereign becomes duke or duchess of York.

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When king George died and princess Elizabeth become Queen who was prince of Wales?Edward still?

Could it be Margaret should have been Queen as the proxy duchess of York.

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When Meg got a very expensive engagement dress ; I got Queen mum vibes. Like Queen mum and Leo she likes grandiosity. together with Harry I think they will use all their opportunity to keep their names in the news.
Both have unsolved parental issues and will compensate by narcissistic outlandish shows.

I like both of them. Yet I know they are going to make grand moves.

The Queen mum did that when she married a fable prince, who could not speak well. And made him king.
Still when he died Queen mum didnt want to leave the palace. She stayed there almost a year and left alot of debts which Queen Elizabeth pick up.

Like Margaret a Leo Queen mum wanted to be the last to arrive and the first to leave a party. She demanded all wait for her.

I am getting this vibes in Meg. While Margaret didn't get a prince to do her binding as Queen mum and Meg has ; still they share similar qualities. Need for grandiosity. Margaret was self destructive at the end as was the Queen. As the crown didn't give the money to waste. Meg brought her own cash and knows how to make money with gossip leaks, photos and clothes horsing Hollywood style.
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Today the duke of york was given a prominent position as "protector" of the queen on the balcony during tropping of the colours. I have to say this picture of the queen leaning to make small talk to the duke not to her prince of wales heir in waiting was a vote of confidence.

Prince andrew pulled his daughter to take her place next to him. For a moment the yorks and elizabeth of york stood sovereighn. Beatrice even wore a pink dress which is normally reserved for kate and camila. That means Beatrice was her fathers 'consort' and eugenie wore the green dress only meg as the consort of harry is allowed to wear.

Interesting because now they have their own agenda.

Henry Birk or Henrich Burg establishmented the Canadian Jewels company 1879 called it Henry birk and sons. The Birks immigrated from Darfield Yorkshire.
Edward prince of wales gave them a royal seal. They supplied Elizabeth York and Margaret York with jewels.

The Canadian maison birk is megs favorite jewels suppliers. On their website they have royal wedding collection.

Sarah Ferguson, bees and boars

Andrew, Duke of York’s ex-wife Sarah Ferguson had bees embroidered on her wedding dress.

This is because a bee on a thistle - and three boars’ heads - appears in the Ferguson family crests, badges and coats of arms etc.

There are many different depictions. These two are good examples:

The yorks at the 22.6.2018 Ascot enjoying themselves. They have all the attention of her Maj without competing with the wales.

“”Ahead of their hotly anticipated wedding in October, Princess Eugenie’s father the Duke of York has officially declared that her ‘commoner’ fiance Jack Brooksbank will remain a man of the people after they marry.

A representative for the Yorks tells me that Jack, 32, will not be granted the vacant title Earl of Northallerton – as has been whispered in recent weeks – meaning the Queen’s granddaughter will be known as HRH Princess Eugenie, Mrs Jack Brooksbank.” DM