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Post by UnseenI on May 28, 2018 6:23:27 GMT
King Henry IX?
I have an idea that this is exactly what Meghan Markle is hoping for.
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Post by UnseenI on May 29, 2018 6:02:00 GMT
William V or Henry IX?
Some people do see everything as just another step up on the way to the top - as in the story of the fisherman whose wife who always wanted more.
It will be very interesting to see what she does next, and whether the old stories about the origin of the Cambridge children start circulating in a big way.
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Post by Avacyn on Jun 4, 2018 23:40:37 GMT
I wonder if all of this is to destroy the Royal Family from within, and replace them with a new bloodline that is more amenable to Them?
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Post by UnseenI on Jun 6, 2018 17:48:49 GMT
Bees and the next monarch We have mentioned bees on another royal thread. Telling your news to the bees is an old custom; maybe they are telling us who the next monarch will be. There are some pictures of them with various candidates, but first here is one of the Queen inspecting a swarm in a bee box in 2016:
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Post by Avacyn on Jun 8, 2018 19:25:07 GMT
Also, they decided the next head of the Commonwealth earlier this year, as well. Is this all hints at something about to come?
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 9, 2018 17:19:11 GMT
Today, i was watching the trooping of the colours fully for the first time. A german, austria and swiss tv showed live broad cast. What i noticed just proves to me there is a race to the top.
The queen chose andrew to join the parade and also to replace or support her At the balcony as prince philip is unwell to attend. Andrew hard to fight his way behind her so tge can come out together. The cambridges were actually fighting to take their place in the forefront. So kate pushed her children and her husband followed her and they took much of the place next to the queen.
However after a while kate and william noticed nobody was fighting for a place next to the queen. She tried to call charles and camila to stand at the small gap left but charles refused and he and camila stood behind and left the cambridges to be at the front.
Last year charles and camila were pushed out if place by the cambridges. So i think this year camila and charles didnt want to get pushed around.
Kate and willam are unwilling to work for the crown but they enjoy the from row place at the balcony. However i guess a place is attractive if its coverted and fought for. Kate singlemindely pushed her family to the front.
But then what happended showed me how things are taking a new twist.
Harry always stands behind next to the door. He never pushed himself to the front. He always let all the minor and major royals stand infront. However the corner next to the door means he is always the first to get out of the balcony and last to enter without push and pull. I noticed that meghan stood next to him. She didnt try to move about and be independent.
However during the fly over, charles, camila, harry, meg seemed to be in deep conversation and enjoying their own company. It seemed for a minute or more the cambridges were isolated. This small holding of the court looks like the cornwalls and the sussexes have formed their own court of the divorced and careless but happy. Camila and charles were animated as though the wait of the unwanted divorcees has been lifted of the shoulder.
The cambridges were isolated and nobody spoke to them. The queen kept eyeing the misbehaving cambridges children but she did not pull them to her to bring in some company now that phi,ip was not there.
The none divorced cambridges were surrounded by all these queens children who are dirvoced and The queen was surrounded herself with the yorks this time around. Suddenly andrew and beatrice were next to her.
I imagine the queens choice for heir is andrew.
The cornwalls and sussexs are united too now since prince charles took the hand of meg and lead her to harry at the alta.
I guess today kate singlemindeness to the front did not help to give her company. Its okay to controll william and the kids but today it showed to be on line to the throne, alliances and shared interests are more important. From behind the cornwalls and sussexes hard time to mingle and chat and bond. The cambridges stood there like lonely and clueless. The queen had her son and grand daughter as comforter.
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 9, 2018 17:23:58 GMT
The queen has fasttracked the duke of york as a acting "consort" until philip is well. But i noticed that duke of york was nervös and running behind tbe queen. Its like he wanted to get his role right. Suddenly beatrice cane and stood next to him and he relaxed.
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 9, 2018 17:37:00 GMT
I think willam has right, just like the duke of windsor had a right to the throne from birth. But as prince of windsor said the Establishment decide who is crowned.
During an interview prince william was asked if he is training george for bis role. He said no. There is time and place. He was asked by Establishment representative if he looses sleep at night over his inherrited right. He said he does not. He said the queen does tnot teach him nor his father. He says he will evolve into his role and plans to modernise the monarch. Thats what henry the eighth did with killings and removing the crown from roman catholicism and edward duke of windsor wanted to do and the establishment kicked him out. the crown cannot afford drastic modernisation or opportunists like kate and william who only work so much but want the best place at the balcony.
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Post by UnseenI on Jun 10, 2018 6:11:11 GMT
Prince William and the Buzzy Bee toy
The second candidate for the throne was very taken with this toy during a visit to New Zealand in 1983:
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Post by UnseenI on Jun 10, 2018 6:16:14 GMT
Lavendel I saw the flyover myself in real life! The planes travel a long way across London. I also watched the highlights on TV in the evening. I miss so many things that other people see, but I did notice that Prince George was not next to Kate. It looks to me that Kate cares much more for Charlotte than she does for George.
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 10, 2018 13:28:01 GMT
Unseenl, its really nice to hear you were live on the ground. Did you have to wake up very early to go to watch? how is the feel on the ground. Do you get a very strange feeling upon seeing all those horse men and queen?
--------------- Regarding prince george., when kate was pushing little lotte to go to the front, william was pushing george. So william was at the front but behind george. However when he noticed that his dad and the harrys werent moving to the front as he thought, he stepped behind to listen in in what the cornwalls and sussexs were talking and laughing about. However kate was fixed on her place and holding on to lotte.
What i noticed that the three children lotte was in blue, savannah in pink and george in white. The colours of the flyover planes were white blue and pink.. red white are mansonic color
I really dont understand what the colours heirachy is. Normally White is very important for them.
When kate made her first balcony appearance, she was in a white dress and black hat..
The she wore pinks and blues..
However that meg wears all pink like beatrice and edwards wife is rather interesting.
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Post by UnseenI on Jun 10, 2018 18:44:32 GMT
You could be right about Prince Andrew: all the other royal men have wives with them. I didn't see the ceremony itself, just the planes. They fly across much of London from the east. You have to get there early stand for a long time to get a good view of the horses etc. and I can't do that. It is much better on TV!
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Post by Lavendel on Jun 11, 2018 10:19:24 GMT
You could be right about Prince Andrew: all the other royal men have wives with them. I didn't see the ceremony itself, just the planes. They fly across much of London from the east. You have to get there early stand for a long time to get a good view of the horses etc. and I can't do that. It is much better on TV! Okay. I get you...still its must have been fun to watch the flyovers and the colours. For us here that all is like in a movie. I going to keep an eye on all kate new tactics to maintain her place in the family. I fear her programming has been triggered by the presence of meghan or the arrival of her second son louis. Certainly something about her is in Transformation. In the car to the trooping of colours she didnt bond with her husband. Not even on the balcony did she turn around to bond with him. She was hangup on charlotte and using her as a comforter. The queen kept making side eye view on her but didnt talk to her until the end to say.. it was a lovely flyover wasnt it? and kate smiled like a maniac. Then seeing her chasing after her kids at the polo game unaware she just gave birth a month ago was rather erratic.
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Post by UnseenI on Jun 12, 2018 5:29:50 GMT
BoJo gets in on the bee act
Bees and royals are a hot topic at the moment. The future King BoJo of course has bee connections too: “A bid to boost beekeeping in London by mayor Boris Johnson today has come under fire from beekeeping associations, who say the capital is already saturated with inexperienced beekeepers. Johnson's Capital Bee campaign, which will offer up to 50 community food-growing groups the chance to keep bees, hopes to boost beekeeper numbers in the city and halt the decline in bee populations. But London beekeepers' associations accuse him of "jumping on the bandwagon" of the huge growth in the popularity of beekeeping.” www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/dec/16/boris-capital-bee-beekeepers-criticiseArtist Caroline Sykes has recently depicted him as a bumblebee: “Caroline, who is a member of the Chelsea Arts Club, said: ‘I decided on Boris Johnson – a clever, thoughtful, amusing man, who I particularly admire and who somehow looks completely right as a bumblebee. This excited me and led me onto the path of painting people as creatures.” www.getwestlondon.co.uk/incoming/would-you-buy-painting-uxbridge-12204309
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Post by UnseenI on Aug 13, 2018 7:24:19 GMT
BoJo - not monarchy material after all?
The way things are going, the monarchy could well end with the Queen. My favourite candidate was Boris Johnson, but seeing him playing the tea lady game in these clothes has put me off a bit. Maybe he agrees with this message:
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Post by UnseenI on Aug 31, 2018 18:37:00 GMT
Who wields it better?
The competition to be the next monarch is still on. Anything Prince Charles can do, Boris can do better:
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Post by UnseenI on Sept 18, 2018 18:23:50 GMT
Save the date for the Queen of the World
Queen of the World is a new TV series about the royals. The first part will be shown on Tuesday 25th.
“This new two-part ITV series offers a unique insight into Her Majesty The Queen’s role as a figure on the global stage and the baton she is passing to the younger members of the Royal Family as they continue to build the Commonwealth connection. Filmed over more than a year with privileged access to The Queen, her family, her staff and her residences, this landmark series tells the story of how the Commonwealth has been a central focus and passion throughout Her Majesty’s life. Queen of the World features behind-the-scenes moments with the Sovereign and other members of the Royal Family, including the Prince of Wales, the Duke of Cambridge, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, the Princess Royal, and the Countess of Wessex. As the family and world leaders discuss the importance of the Commonwealth to the Queen, the series will document the way in which she passes her knowledge and experience to the younger generations.“
I thought that they had decided that such programmes were a big mistake. They spoil the mystery.
I am sure that it will be cringe making, but as it is on Freeview I might give it a go. It will be a chance to check out the candidates for the monarchy.
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Post by Avacyn on Sept 18, 2018 22:00:07 GMT
Well, you're brave to face the cringe! I don't have television, so will be missing out, I'm afraid.
I thought Charles had been chosen to follow her? I know it's the case for the Commonwealth.
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Post by UnseenI on Sept 19, 2018 6:04:28 GMT
Well, you're brave to face the cringe! I don't have television, so will be missing out, I'm afraid. I thought Charles had been chosen to follow her? I know it's the case for the Commonwealth. If I see anything relevant, I will put it on here. I have an idea that they will split the tasks among the youngest members. We shall see.
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Post by UnseenI on Sept 19, 2018 6:11:19 GMT
From aletheia a while back: “I'd love to know what internal battles are being waged right now in the monarchy …“ So would I. We should watch this programme for clues. I suspect that there is a fight for succession, a fight to be passed over, a fight over who does what duties...
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Post by Avacyn on Sept 19, 2018 20:18:34 GMT
Here is an interesting thought here.
If the crown goes to Harry, it means Meghan becomes queen. Having been divorced, will she still be legitimate? Also, she identifies as black over white, and hates the white side of her: look at her relationship with her father. Could she be a suitable queen, or is there an agenda there?
Just thought of something: back in 2010, there was a Doctor Who episode involving a "Starship UK," where the monarch was "Liz Ten," who was distinctly African in origin, to some extent. Could this be some sort of message, or mental preparation going on there?
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Post by UnseenI on Sept 20, 2018 6:30:03 GMT
Really? Sometimes fiction does become fact.
It is only too likely that Meghan has her eyes on the Crown. There are people who are never satisfied and are always looking for the next step up. If William became discredited...
Did you see the Scarlet Overkill posts on the Sussex thread?
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Post by UnseenI on Sept 20, 2018 18:22:48 GMT
Liz Ten
I see what you mean Avacyn ! Meghan wore a crown when she was a little girl of eight:
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Post by aletheia on Sept 22, 2018 18:31:12 GMT
I'll probably give this TV show a watch as there may be some telling information or clues that come out of it – especially with respect to the succession of the Crown.
One idea is that they have inserted Meghan Markle, in order that she might trigger such a succession crisis that the monarchy is greivously wounded, bringing about the end to this antient power.
It is imperative evenso, that in the Age of Aquarius, they continue to trample traditions and defile institutions. Another possibility is that they are planning to install a Roman Catholic on the throne and bring the U.K. back under the yoke of the papal power. I will have to look more at this connexion, but year by year we see this 'falling away' or apostasia to use the Greek. Now no longer necessary, to give an example, for the spouse of the sovereign to convert to Anglicanism, if I'm not mistaken.
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Post by UnseenI on Sept 22, 2018 19:06:14 GMT
This programme is rather late for me, but the intriguing title and the fact that it is done with the willing participation of the royals gives me the idea that there is some ulterior reason for making it.
And the Aquarius/Leo polarity does involve a big republican versus monarchy battle.
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Post by UnseenI on Sept 23, 2018 6:51:33 GMT
The question of religion
“Now no longer necessary, to give an example, for the spouse of the sovereign to convert to Anglicanism, if I'm not mistaken.” “Another possibility is that they are planning to install a Roman Catholic on the throne and bring the U.K. back under the yoke of the papal power.” aletheia I think that Meghan was received into the Church of England by Justin Welby before her marriage. I see it as just going through the motions, doing it because it needed to be done. I can’t see papal power ever getting a grip on a Protestant European country ever again. People know too much. Those days are gone forever.
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Post by UnseenI on Sept 23, 2018 18:51:09 GMT
Queen of the World
I still think that this is a very strange title for the programme. Even if the British Empire still existed, she would not be queen of everywhere.
It makes me think of the King of the World scene in Titanic... is the royal ship about to sink?
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